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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A : 23/09/1992 : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMERCE : [Senate Estimates]

CHAIRMAN --I call the Committee to order. We will continue to examine the estimates of the Industry, Technology and Commerce portfolio. We are now dealing with CSIRO. Are there any questions? Senator O'CHEE --Page 3-236 of Budget Paper No. 1--Chart 1. `General and Scientific Research net Proportion of Total Outlays and Function 1991-92'--says: Major

Date: 23/09/1992 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw920923a_eca.out/0003 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A : 23/09/1992 : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMERCE : Program 9.0--Customs : [Senate Estimates]

CHAIRMAN --We will continue examination of Customs officers. Senator O'CHEE --I have some general questions. On page 245 of the draft annual report of the Customs Service there are details of claims and losses. In relation to the ACT it says `physical loss of property or money of $138,761.30, the reason being deficient

Date: 23/09/1992 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw920923a_eca.out/0005 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A : 23/09/1992 : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMERCE : Program 9.0--Customs : Subprogram 9.2--Import Export : [Senate Estimates]

Senator O'CHEE --In relation to subprogram 9.2, I understand that the Customs Service has responsibility for monitoring the importation of prohibited imports. Is that correct? Mr Kelly --Yes. Senator O'CHEE --It is my understanding that a gentleman called Mr Ron Owens is a firearms dealer in Gympie. Between June 1986 and March 1987 he

Date: 23/09/1992 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw920923a_eca.out/0007 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A : 23/09/1992 : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMERCE : Program 9.0--Customs : Subprogram 9.5--Coastwatch : [Senate Estimates]

Senator O'CHEE --Yesterday I indicated to the Committee secretariat that I would be asking some detailed questions on the subprogram relating to Coastwatch. I understand that was communicated to Customs. Is that correct? Mr Kelly --Yes. Senator O'CHEE --Are the relevant officers here? Mr Kelly --Yes. Senator O'CHEE --Would it be convenient, Senator

Date: 23/09/1992 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw920923a_eca.out/0009 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A : 23/09/1992 : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMERCE : Program 9.0--Customs : Subprogram 9.8--Executive Services : [Senate Estimates]

Senator O'CHEE --Mr Kelly, earlier on this morning you told me that Customs was a particularly specialised operation in relation to consultants. Do you recall that answer? Mr Kelly --Yes. Senator O'CHEE --Does that apply to the personnel who work in Customs? Mr Kelly --Yes. Senator O'CHEE --What are the policies for appointment

Date: 23/09/1992 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw920923a_eca.out/0011 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A : 22/09/1992 : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMERCE : [Senate Estimates]

CHAIRMAN --I call the Committee to order. This morning the Committee will commence with the Industry, Technology and Commerce portfolio estimates and later conclude the examination of the estimates for the Prime Minister and Cabinet. Estimates for CSIRO will be considered tomorrow. Appropriation Bills Nos. 1 and 2 1992-93 contain proposed expenditure of $2,462,160,000 in

Date: 22/09/1992 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw920922a_eca.out/0003 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A : 22/09/1992 : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMERCE : Program 3--Australian Manufacturing Council : [Senate Estimates]

Senator O'CHEE --In an answer provided on 19 August 1992 to a question on notice from the member for Corangamite, Mr Stewart McArthur, you stated that the Australian Manufacturing Council was to spend at least $738,570 on its community education program about manufacturing during this forthcoming year. You stated that a wide range of

Date: 22/09/1992 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw920922a_eca.out/0005 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A : 22/09/1992 : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMERCE : Program 4--National Standards : [Senate Estimates]

Senator O'CHEE --The increase in funding from last year's action to this year's estimate is an increase of 49.8 per cent. The increase in staff years only goes from 28.6 staff years to 31.2 staff years. Where is the rest of the money going? Senator Button --Senator, it is an item of capital

Date: 22/09/1992 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw920922a_eca.out/0007 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A : 22/09/1992 : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMERCE : Program 5--Textiles, Clothing and Footwear : [Senate Estimates]

Senator O'CHEE --How much of the Australian wool clip is processed in this country? Senator Button --Do you mean processed beyond the scouring stage? Senator O'CHEE --Yes. Senator Button --I think it is about 5 per cent. Senator O'CHEE --How is that estimate arrived at? Senator Button --It is arrived at

Date: 22/09/1992 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw920922a_eca.out/0009 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A : 22/09/1992 : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMERCE : Program 8--Marine Science : [Senate Estimates]

Senator ARCHER --Last year we had $711,000 for capital works. Do we understand that there are no capital works under way or planned for the ensuing year? Senator Button --That is right. That involved the completion of the engineering workshops. Senator ARCHER --There is nothing more on the program at present? Senator Button

Date: 22/09/1992 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw920922a_eca.out/0013 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A : 22/09/1992 : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMERCE : Program 10--Nuclear Science and Technology : Subprogram 10.1--Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation : [Senate Estimates]

CHAIRMAN --Firstly, I regret that Dr Cook is not here because there were a number of questions that I wanted to ask him, but I will place some of those on notice. I wish to ask a number of questions which arise from a letter written by the Hon. Robert Tickner, MP, in

Date: 22/09/1992 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw920922a_eca.out/0016 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A : 22/09/1992 : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMERCE : Program 1--Industry, Technology and Commerce : Subprogram 1.3--Light Industries : [Senate Estimates]

Senator BISHOP --I might just ask one or two questions about telecommunications customer premises equipment. I refer to a press release dated 25 August 1992 entitled, `Changes to industry development arrangements for customer premises equipment'. The release announced that companies endorsed under the scheme will have their performance in the current financial year audited. Are

Date: 22/09/1992 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw920922a_eca.out/0025 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A : 22/09/1992 : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMERCE : Program 1--Industry, Technology and Commerce : Subprogram 1.4--Construction & Service Industries : [Senate Estimates]

CHAIRMAN --Are their any questions on Subprogram 1.4--Construction and Service Industries? Senator BISHOP --I want to ask a couple of questions. What timeframe are we operating into today? CHAIRMAN --We are operating till 6.30 p.m., as I understand it. Senator BISHOP --Do we all turn into pumpkins or something at 6.30? CHAIRMAN --Each

Date: 22/09/1992 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw920922a_eca.out/0027 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A : 22/09/1992 : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMERCE : Program 1--Industry, Technology and Commerce : Subprogram 1.6 International : [Senate Estimates]

Senator O'CHEE --I understand from the program performance statement that the international division, which is program element 1.6, assesses recommendations from EFIC in relation to national interest cover. Is that correct? Senator Button --Yes, together with others. IDC meets them. Senator O'CHEE --Which departments sit on the IDC? Senator Button --Treasury, my Department,

Date: 22/09/1992 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw920922a_eca.out/0029 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A : 22/09/1992 : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMERCE : Program 9--Customs : [Senate Estimates]

CHAIRMAN --I call the Committee to order. Minister, you wanted to say something? Senator Button --Mr Chairman, the total amount sought by Customs for the 1992-93 estimates is $1,298m. Seated at the table are the following representatives from the Australian Customs Service: Mr Frank Kelly, the Comptroller-General on my immediate left; and Ms Trish

Date: 22/09/1992 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw920922a_eca.out/0031 - Source: SENATE

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