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Transcript of radio interview with Millsy and Tony Mac: 6PR, Breakfast: 8 June 2010: Resources Super Profit Tax; visit to WA; voting.

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The Hon Julia Gillard MP 

Deputy Prime Minister 

Minister for Education 

Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations 

8 June, 2010  

Radio Interview - 6PR Breakfast


ISSUES: Resources Super Profit Tax; Visit to WA; Voting.

HOST: Julia Gillard, Deputy Prime Minister, good morning.

JULIA GILLARD: Good morning, Steve.

HOST: Now what’s it like going to a lunch today where you know you’re going to be under attack from the mining industry yet again?

JULIA GILLARD: I always think debate and discussions are good things so I’m looking forward to it.

HOST: How do you really feel though?

JULIA GILLARD: That’s how I really feel and I’ll obviously be very happy to talk about the Resources Super Profits Tax and I’m there too to talk about skills in this great state of Western Australia. Obviously a big thing for the resources industry and for the state overall is making sure we’ve got the skills we need to fuel growth. So I’ll be talking about both things and very happy to engage in the debate.

I always think when you have a good debate and discussion everybody learns something so why not.

HOST: The polls don’t look too good for you at the present time. Are you worried about it? Even the Prime Minister came out yesterday and said if the poll was held today Tony Abbott would be your prime minister.

JULIA GILLARD: And the Prime Minister’s statement was obviously right and we’re asking the Australian people to clearly think about the choice as we move through the days of this election year. I obviously don’t know when the election’s going to be, but whenever

election day it will be a very clear choice for people, very clear choice between our Fair Work system or going back to Work Choices, very clear choice on whether or not we continue to invest in education or we endorse Tony Abbott’s cuts to trades training centres in schools even though they’re giving kids a real pathway to work.

HOST: Have you got a fallback position here on the super tax? I mean, have you had discussions between yourself, the Prime Minister, Wayne Swan and others in regards to cutting this tax back?

JULIA GILLARD: Well the Prime Minister and the Treasurer on the day all of this was announced said that there would be a process of consultation and engagement with the mining industry and we’re in that process now. I understand that the public debate has been pretty fast and furious and I understand that that might be making people in Western Australia feel anxious and more broadly around the nation, but really I don’t think that there is anything to feel anxious about.

HOST: Yeah, but people do and they’re going to wipe you out at the election unless you make changes. You’ve got to have talked about it, surely?

JULIA GILLARD: There are, behind all the heat and fury in the public debate, there are actually some points of agreement here. And point of agreement number one is most of the resources sector is saying that they could pay more tax and as a Government, we’re saying it’s very important as we dig up these resources, tap these resources and sell them once because you only get to sell them once, that we make sure mining companies make good profits, workers make good wages in the mining industry. But there’s also money available for the state of Western Australia and for the nation so people get a fair share and we’re investing for the long term for the things that are going to make a long term difference to our economy and our nation.

HOST: Why should we vote? We read this morning that 1.4 million Aussies that are eligible to vote aren’t on the electoral roll. That’s quite concerning.

JULIA GILLARD: It is concerning and particularly concerning when you think around this world of ours there are people who literally fight and die for the right to vote and so in this country that extends everyone that right, everyone should take up that right and have their say in the nation’s future.

HOST: So if they’re not voting, why should we?

JULIA GILLARD: I believe we’ve all got an obligation to vote. It comes with being an Australian citizen and part of this nation. Our future is there for us to shape, it’s a joint future, it’s a shared future and everybody should have their say in it and we as a Government, you know, will be continuing to put a case.

I mean, we were elected with an ambitious agenda. We’ve delivered some very important things like the end of Work Choices, like new investments in schools including our Trades Training Centres and we’ve got more to do to keep delivering for working families around this country.

HOST: But what about having the debate though? Is it worth having the debate to say people don’t want to vote, should they have to vote because we’ve had callers ring up this morning that said they haven’t been on the electoral roll for 50 years.

JULIA GILLARD: I don’t agree with that. I think you can’t utter a critical word about what happens in this nation unless you step up to the plate and have your say. It is inherent in being an Australian that you play your part in shaping the government of your nation and that’s your vote.

HOST: Have you got extra protection on your visit this time over, seriously?


HOST: Because the Prime Minister is going to be confronted by a massive rally outside the Hyatt tomorrow before his particular luncheon. Have you got none?

JULIA GILLARD: I’m obviously not going to talk about security arrangements involving me. That wouldn’t be appropriate. But what I will say is this: the Australian way it seems to me, we’re pretty passionate about what we believe in, I’m pretty passionate about what I believe in. That’s why I’m so passionate about the things we’re doing as a Government like ending Work Choices and delivering our education reform.

HOST: Righto, yeah, we’ve been there today. That’s good.

JULIA GILLARD: And how much more we’ve got to do.

HOST: Will you change, finally, will you change the tax?

JULIA GILLARD: But part of being passionate is making sure our discussions and debates are respectful, and I would anticipate everybody who’s got a view about the Resources Super Profits Tax debate will conduct themselves in a respectful manner.

HOST: Thank you, Julia.