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Tuesday, 19 September 1972
Page: 975


The PRESIDENT - Order! There can be no debate.


Senator Murphy - I move that so much of the Standing Orders be suspended as would prevent the debate proceeding--


Senator Greenwood - I rise to order. Standing order 431 states that the closure is a motion which shall be put without discussion. The Leader of the Opposition in the Senate has no right to speak to the motion.


Senator Murphy - Is the Minister afraid for the debate to proceed?


The PRESIDENT - Order! I must uphold the Standing Orders. The Standing Orders state that the question must be put without debate. Therefore I put the question--


Senator Murphy - I move - Mr President, you can rule me out order if you wish.


The PRESIDENT - I am not ruling the Leader of the Oposition out of order.


Senator Murphy - I move:

That so much of the Standing Orders be suspended as would prevent the debate from proceeding.


Senator Greenwood - Standing Order 431 lists the motions which are not open to debate. One of them is That the question be now put'. It also states that it shall be moved without argument or opinion offered. The Leader of the Opposition has no right to move a motion after the motion has been put.


The PRESIDENT - I repeat that I must uphold the Standing Orders. 1 have no discretion. The Standing Orders require me to put the question without debate. Therefore I now put the question.

Question put:

That the question be now put.







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