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Wednesday, 24 May 1972
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Senator MCAULIFFE (Queensland) - In addressing my remarks to the Queensland Grant Bill 1972 on Tuesday, 16th May 1972, 1 made reference to the millions of dollars turnover in Queensland in the gambling sports. I mentioned that now Queensland is a claimant State if a move by a cartel of bookmakers to take over the gambling business in Queensland was not investigated and cleaned up, the State could lose millions of dollars in the way of turnover tax, plus the fact that being a claimant State, Queensland is now subject to budgetary restrictions and auditing procedures by the Commonwealth Treasury which would place Queensland in a bad light. In presenting that story I made certain claims. Subsequently, Press statements have been made by one of the gentlemen to whom I referred, Mr Stan Sheldon, President of the Queensland Bookmakers Council, to the effect that his

Council is beyond reproach, that it has the support of 10 organisations and that the claims that 1 made were untrue and unfounded. People who have known me for any length of time know that I do not go off half cocked. I have in my possession this evening 9 documents which I will itemise and then ask for leave of the Senate to have incorporated in Hansard so that people reading Hansard will be able to decide the matter for themselves. They are documents which will fully substantiate the claims which I made in my address on 16th May. I shall list briefly the 9 documents, they are: 1, A list o£ bookmakers associations recognised by the Queensland Bookmakers Council and showing the large scale resignations in each instance; 2, Letters from the Queensland Bookmakers Council intimating that all bookmakers had to join the Council and that only upon joining could they expect to become licensed bookmakers; 3, A circular sent to all members of their association by the North Queensland Racing Association bookmakers; 4, A second circular sent to all members of their association by the North Queensland Racing Association bookmakers; 5, A list of individual resignations from the Queensland Bookmakers Council by north Queensland bookmakers; 6. A petition sent to the Hon. the Minister in charge of Racing, Sir Gordon Chalk, K.B.E., by the Licensed North Queensland Racing Association Bookmakers protesting against the action and attitude of the Queensland Bookmakers Council; 7. Comment on the Queensland Bookmakers Council in the Cairns 'Post' of 14th January 1972; 8, A letter from the Mackay Bookmakers Association to the North Queeusland Racing Association protesting about being forced or bound in any way to join the Queensland Bookmakers Council; 9, A new document - a statement of receipts and payments for the period from 1st October 1969 to 31st October 1971, duly audited by B. M. Scott, public accountant, and showing an amount of $4,000 in a fighting fund. Bookmakers are upset and concerned that details regarding the fighting fund are not available and they that feel pandemonium would be let loose if particulars regarding the $4,000 were made public. 1 must admit that an extraordinary situation exists and has been allowed to continue by the officers of the Queensland Bookmakers Council not doing everything humanly possible to explain the item in their balance sheet when they have had so many requests to do so. I believe that it is the duty of the Minister in charge of Racing in Queensland, Sir Gordon Chalk, to tell the bookmakers the story about the $4,000 if the Queensland Bookmakers Council will not. I ask for leave of the Senate to have these documents incorporated in Hansard.


The PRESIDENT - Is leave granted?


Senator Greenwood - No.


The PRESIDENT - Leave is not granted.


Senator Keeffe - Anything that is shady you want to put under the table.


Senator Wright - I take a point of order. I ask that the offensive words used by Senator Keeffe against the Attorney-General Anything that is shady' - I did not hear explicitly what followed, but I understood it to be to the purport 'you want to cover up' - be withdrawn without equivocation.


The PRESIDENT - Order! Senator Keeffe, I think that, in the heat of the moment, with the electoral fever that is overtaking honourable senators, you will agree that perhaps it was not a permissible remark, and I would be grateful if you withdraw it.


Senator Keeffe - 1 regret that my remark might have sounded out of place, but as far as I am concerned, when matters of this nature are raised the Attorney-General consistently refuses leave for any documents to be incorporated. To the best of my knowledge, the term that I used was certainly not unparliamentary. It might have had some overtones. I would think that if any body were offended it was the AttorneyGeneral. I do not know where the Minister for Works (Senator Wright) comes into the argument. As I fee] that I have not said anything offensive, I decline to withdraw.


The PRESIDENT - On the contrary, I regard it as offensive in the context in which it was said. I would be grateful if you would withdraw it.


Senator Keeffe - If the word that I am alleged to have used is offensive to the Attorney-General - if it is not offensive to the Attorney-General, it is offensive to the Minister for Works - I may look at it from another angle and reiterate what I said a moment ago. There is this extreme reluctance by the Attorney-General to have statements of any kind incorporated when members on this side of the Senate seek to have this done.


The PRESIDENT - I think that is what you meant. Having said what you meant, would you withdraw the word?


Senator Keeffe - I appreciate your impartiality in getting me off the hook, but I want to say that when there is a matter of a doubtful nature the Attorney-General expresses great reluctance to have documents incorporated. If that word is acecptable I will withdraw the word that I am alleged to have said.


Senator McAULIFFE - I shall read document No. 1. It is interesting to quote the constitution of the Queensland Bookmakers Council. The first document reads:

The Council shall consist of the following organisations:

Townsville and District Bookmakers Association. (Some 23 of their members resigned from the QBC on 7.2.72.)

Queensland Greyhound Bookmakers Association. (Their Association resigned from the Council on 8.2.72.)

St Leger Bookmakers Association. (Their Association resigned from the Council on 8.3.72.)

Gold Coast Bookmakers Association. (Most of these members have stated that they will not join the Council.)

Downs and South Western Bookmakers Association.(Most of these members state that they will not join the Council.)

Rockhampton and District Bookmakers Association. (It is said that they will not contribute to the Council.)

QTC Paddock Bookmakers Association. (Some 36 members resigned from the Council on 1.2.72.)

Provincial Bookmakers Association. (Became dissociated from the QBC on 11.1.72.)

Far Northern Queensland Bookmakers Association. (Some SO members resigned from the Council on 7.2.72.)

Mt Isa Bookmakers Association. (Their Association resigned from the QBC on 8.2.72.) and such other associations of Bookmakers and kindred bodies as the Council may from time to time determine.

We ask: 'Would the Queensland Bookmakers Council now still be acting within their Constitution, by entering into an arrangement with the Queensland Government under section 104a - Bookmakers Guarantee Scheme?'

It is believed that there are some 600 to 700 registered bookmakers in the State and at a guess it is doubtful if the Queensland Bookmakers Council has bonded 35 of these bookmakers. Therefore they do not represent any more than 5 per cent of bookmakers in the State if this be the case.

Document No. 2 is a letter on the letterhead of the Queensland Bookmakers Council and bears the signature of S. Sheldon, the President. His address is 504 Marine Parade, Labrador. The letter is dated 9th November 1971.


The PRESIDENT -Senator McAuliffe, I wonder whether you would allow me to intrude on behalf of honourable senators.

Instead of having the documents incorporated in Hansard, you could seek leave to table them.


Senator McAULIFFE - I want them in Hansard, with respect, Mr President.


The PRESIDENT - That is all right. I thought 1 might be able to relieve you of the duty of having to read them.


Senator McAULIFFE - With respect, I would like them in Hansard. Could I seek leave to have the remainder of the documents incorporated in Hansard?


The PRESIDENT - Senator Greenwood,do you wish to sight the documents?


Senator Greenwood - I say no, if heis asking for leave to have them incorporated.


Senator McAULIFFE - The second document reads:

To the Presidents of all Affiliated Associations'.

The Council has been duly notified by Sir Gordon Chalker, K.B.E., that the Racing and Betting Amendment Act received Royal Assent on Monday, 1st November 1971. Consequently, the provisions relating to the Bookmakers Guarantee Fund are now in force.

I enclose a copy of a letter forwarded to the principal Licensing Authority in your district, which should be self-explanatory. I believe this authority will advise the Bookmakers in your district of the added requirement to be a Government Licensed Bookmaker.

As soon as this advice has been received, Mr J. Cerutti. (Treasurer of the. Quensland Bookmakers Council) and myself will visit your Association Headquarters to meet your Executive and district Bookmakers. Arrangements can then he made for the collection of the necessary bond money which will enable them to become accredited and thus have the financial status to be licensed as Bookmakers.

Copies of the Act, together with copies of Hansard, will be forwarded to you as soon as they are available from the Government Printer.

Also in that document is another letter bearing the signature of S. Sheldon, President, of the same address, 504 Marine Parade, Labrador. It is on Queensland Bookmakers Council letterhead. The council's motto is: 'He profits most who serves best'. The second letter which is part of document No. 2 reads:

Dear Sir,

I have been notified by Sir Gordon Chalk, K.B.E., Minister in Charge of Racing, that the Racing-Betting Amendment Act received Royal Assent on Monday, 1st November 1971. Consequently, the provisions relating to the Bookmakers Guarantee Fund are now in force.

The Minister has also .directed my Council to put in operation and set up the Guarantee Bond System for all classes of Bookmakers in Queensland. We will accept liability for a Bookmaker's default on any one day as follows:

(a)   In paying bets lawfully made by Bookmakers in respect of any Race Meeting, Cousing Meeting and Athletic Meeting, in default.

(b)   In paying any amount of Bookmakers Turnover Tax payable by that Bookmaker, in default.

The liability of guarantee will be limited to an amount of $5,000 in respect of defaults made by each Bookmaker in paying bets lawfully laid by him or paying Bookmakers Turnover Tax in respect of bets so made by him on any one day. The Council will be responsible to settle all claims according to the procedure set down by the new Racing Amendment Act. The Act stipulates that the $5,000 Guarantee Bond is an added requirement to be a Government licensed Bookmaker in Queensland.

Provision has been made by my Council to accept a Bookmaker as a member when his application to operate as a Bookmaker has been approved by the principal Licensing Authority, provided he has complied with the requirements to become a member of the Council.

The Bookmaker will deposit $1,000 with the Council, to be held in a Trust Account approved by the Government. He will receive 4 per cent per annum interest on his deposit and, provided there has been no claim by a principal Licensing Authority or by the Commissioner of Stamp Duties, his deposit will be returned to him on resignation or any other reason.

The Minister initiated that section of the Act regarding the Guarantee Bond Fund at the request of my Council, with the unanimous support of all affiliated Associations.

I am sure that we can work amicably together in the joint interests of Bookmakers and your Committee on this matter. There is no doubt that the racing public generally will appreciate the fact that their bets will be safe and guaranteed when made with a registered on-Course Bookmaker. I would be pleased to meet your Committee and discuss further details of this system at your earliest convenience.

Yours faithfully,

S.   SHELDON, President.

I now refer to document No. 3 which is a circular sent to all North Queensland Racing Association bookmakers. Before reading this document, 1 seek leave to have the rest of the documents incorporated in Hansard?

The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT (Senator Lawrie) - Is leave granted?


Senator Greenwood - No.


Senator Wright - No.

The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT - Leave is not granted.


Senator MCAULIFFE - Document No. 3 reads:

Dear Sir,

As you may have heard there is a scheme afoot led by a few Brisbane Bookmakers who call themselves the Queensland Bookmakers Council to take $1,000 from each of us plus $25 per year to guarantee us. This sudden desire to guarantee us comes not from the Government or theNQRA but from the Queensland Bookmakers Council which is trying to tell us they have been instructed by Sir Gordon Chalk to do so. This is a deliberate lie and in the new Racing and Betting Act Amendment Act they do not get a mention, the act says the Minister may enter into an agreement with a (any) Bookmakers Bond Guarantee Fund. So beware of this trap and send no money to them and do not join their Association. The Townsville and District Bookmakers Association, the Mackay Bookmakers Association have sent letters of protest about this Queensland Bookmakers Council to the Minister and NQRA, the Mount Isa Bookmakers Association have resigned from it.

A copy of the petition which we have signed, about 80 Bookmakers from Townsville, Ingham, Ayr, innisfail, Cairns, Mareeba, Atherton Tablelands, Mackay and Mount Isa, is enclosed herewith and in the interests, of us all you should sign it and post to the Minister for Racing, Hon. Sir Gordon Chalk, K.B.E., Parliament House, Brisbane, or send signed letter to P.O. Box 132, Hermit Park, for inclusion with original petition being set shortly.

The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT-

Order! Did the honourable member use the term 'a deliberate lie' when referring to Sir Gordon Chalk?


Senator MCAULIFFE - No, I described him as a K.B.E. The document continued.

We have been unable to contact you to sign the original petition but your signature on this copy will give further weight to our fight against any attempt by the 'Queensland Bookmakers Council1 to Demand money from us.

We have sent a similar petition to the NQRA but as they are already opposed to the 'Queensland Bookmakers Council' we feel it necessary for you to add your signature to this one only and thus speak as a body to the Minister for Racing.

In a letter received on 9th February 1972. from Mr W. Gillman, Solicitor, of Dean, Gillman and Thompson, he states: 'It is my opinion that a Bookmaker licensed by the NQRA is not bound nor is he under any obligation to become a member of a Bookmakers Association or of the "Queensland Bookmakers Council". If Bookmakers licensed by the NQRA wish to dissociate themselves from any agreement made by the Council or their Association then they should resign from that Council or their Association.'

NQRA Bookmakers

I turn now to document No. 4 which is a circular sent to all North Queensland Racing Association bookmakers. With respect.

MiActing Deputy President, may I have the rest of the documents incorporated in Hansard?

The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT - Is leave granted?


Senator Greenwood - No.


Senator Wright - No.

The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENTLeave is not granted.

Sentaor McAULIFFE - I will wear them down. Document No. 4 reads:

At a meeting of the Townsville and District Bookmakers Association on 7th February 1972, a motion was passed by an overwhelming majority that when the question of guarantees arised, that we have a choice as to how we wish to be guaranteed and no pressure be brought to bear on any licensee to join any particular body. A letter to the NQRA and also one to the Minister for Racing, Sir Gordon Chalk was to be sent. Also money which was about to be sent to the Queensland Bookmaker's Council was withheld. This clearly indicates that Northern Bookmakers are suspicious of the whole set up and propaganda of the Queensland Bookmakers Council. This body through the press and by two expense paid propaganda tours to the North has been telling everyone that it is law and compulsory to give them $1,000 and $25 membership fees with the threat of not being granted a licence in the coming year.

This is a deliberate falsehood and in the recently passed 'Racing and Betting Act Amendment Act' the Queensland Bookmakers Council is not even mentioned! This is the most blatant and obnoxious attempt to frighten licensees into giving $1,025 to a few organised schemers who want $700,000 plus 700 $25's per year subscription from the Queensland Bookmakers.

If anyone in his right mind wants to give then $1,000 plus $25 each year let him do so but the same amount given to the mafia would bear as much return or security.

There are a very few brainwashed propagandists for this organisation still lobbying for it up here but do not be fooled by them. The only reason for suggesting the amount of $5,000 (personal) is to come in to line with the new Greyhound Board's requirements which has Government sanction and equals the amount of guarantees of the Queensland Bookmakers Council. There is not much doubt which choice we will make, the Fidelity Bond now in operation with the Trotting Board. Think for yourself, or reflect on the legal opinion obtained on 9th February 1972, of Mr W. Gillman, Solicitor of Dean Gillman and Thompson, of Townsville, who stated:

It is my opinion that a bookmaker licensed by the NQRA is not bound, nor is he under any obligation to become a member of a bookmakers association or of the Queensland Bookmakers Council. If Bookmakers licensed by the NQRA wish to dissociate themselves from any agreement made by the Council or their Association, then they should resign from that Council or their Association.'

The attached petitions signed- by NQRA Bookmakers should put an end to any further harassment by the Queensland Bookmakers Council.

I come now to document No. 5. This document contains a list of names. I seek leave to have it incorporated in Hansard.

The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT - Is leave granted?


Senator Greenwood - No.


Senator Wright - No.

The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT - Leave is not granted.


Senator McAULIFFE - The list contains resignations in north Queensland from the Queensland Bookmakers Council. It reads:

Townsville - A. Bell, A. Bowden, L. R. Bracken, J. M. Davidson, R. J. Franzman, D. L. Kilby, B. C. Kilby, W. H. Kinsey, J. I. Leonardi, W. A. Pascoe, W. R. Tamblyn, R. L. Taylor, W. E. Vause. C. J. Allingham, K. W. Cooney, V. J. Cummins, H. Langdon, A. V. Scarr, J. P. Shinnick, F. J. Tyrrell, D. W. Crowe, F. Clout, G. R. Stevens.

Charters Towers - L. F. Mitchell, R. J. Sweeney, W. J. Thomasson, E. R. Torkington, C. H. Robins. Hughenden- J. P. Close, J. T. Paine. Home Hill- -W. B. Prizeman. Ayr - J. N. Leonardi. Cardwell- J. H. Cable. Ingham - S. Russo.

Innisfail - C. J. Anderson, E. B. How Keo, W. L. Sue Yek, J. Lee, N. Lee.

Mareeba- A. C. D. Best, T. J. Goodwin. D. W. Hughes, T. P. G. Meehan,J. F. Little.

Atherton - J. M. Geraghty, E. G. Hopkins, P. Jue Sue, K. S. Sanderson.

Yungaburra - N. Davis.

Tolga- R. E. Allwood.

Cairns - H. Davidson, J. C. Brown, R. F. Melvin, B. R. McKeown, B. McIntyre, K. R. Brewer, E. P. Lisha, M. H. Limkin, G. D. Chapman, G. J. Eustace.

Mackay - T. Crittenden, A. Townsend, F. J. Paul, L. J. Palmer, T. W. Howell, J. J. Clerc, C. E. Cooley, A. P. Cuniac, E. F. Hanson, R. D. McLeod, J. J. Molloy, S. Gauci, F. Bilney.

Mount Isa - T. Christison, R. H. Chambers, R. A. Howie, T. F. Maher, P. O'Keefe, F. Godier, A. H. Swan. K. H. Wyld, G. A. Saunders, R. M. Bakleash, R. G. Jenkin, R. Chambers, R. McLaughlin.

We now come to document No. 6. I seek leave to have that document and the remainder of the documents incorporated in Hansard.


The PRESIDENT - Is leave granted?

Government Senators - No


The PRESIDENT - There being objection, leave is not granted.


Senator McAULIFFE - The letter is over the signature of some 80 licensed North Queensland Racing Association bookmakers. The signatures are all here. The letter is dated 11th February 1972. It is addressed to the Minister for Racing, the honourable Sir Gordon Chalk, K.B.E., Parliament House, Brisbane. It states:

Dear Sir,

We the undersigned, The North Queensland Bookmakers, do hereby formally request that in the matter of guarantees to be required in the near future, you extend to us the privilege of a choice in (a) Cash Deposit of $5,000.00 to be held by NQRA; (b) a Fidelity Bond Guarantee to the value of $5,000.00; or (c) a Bookmakers Guarantee Bond in accordance with the Provisions of Section 104 of Racing and Betting Act (No. 2) 1972, similar to the Greyhound Racing Control Board requirements.

The Queensland Bookmakers Council, which is most unpopular amongst the NQRA Bookmakers and has no support whatever from any of the undersigned, who feel that their best interests would not be served by being members of the said body.

We therefore feel that no pressure should be brought to bear on any Bookmaker to join the Queensland Bookmakers Council provided he is adequately guaranteed by Fidelity Bond or otherwise to the satisfaction of the Government, and the ruling body, The North Queensland Racing Association.

At a meeting of The Townsville and District Bookmakers Association comprising A, B and C class licensees, held on 7th Fberuary 1972, a motion was passed by an overwhelming majority that a similar request be made to you and the NQRA, and at a meeting at Mt Isa of the Mt Isa Bookmakers Association they resigned from the Quensland Bookmakers Council.

All the signatures are there.

I come now to document 7. There are 3 more documents. To add some commonsense to the debate I seek leave to have the remainder of the documents incorporated in Hansard.


The PRESIDENT - Is leave granted?

Government senators - No.


The PRESIDENT - There being objection, leave is not granted.


Senator McAULIFFE - Document No. 7 is a report in the Cairns 'Post' of Friday, 14th January 1972. It states:

More than 40 Far North bookmakers have sent off a petition to appropriate authorities as a protest against a Betting and Gaming Act amendment which comes into operation in Queensland this year.

The amendment calls for all registered bookmakers in the State to lodge $1,000 cash each with the Queensland Bookmakers Council before March 31 as a guarantee against defaultment

This in addition to having to pay premiums on a $5,000 fidelity bond each.

Bookies have been told that unless they pay the money the QBC will advise the appropriate racing authority - in our case the NQRA - not to license the offender.

The bookmakers will get 4 per cent a year interest on their money and will not be refunded the $1,000 until they retire from fielding.

Copies of the petition have been sent to the QBC, NQRA and the Minister for Racing, Sir Gordon Chalk.

Almost all Far North bookies have signed.

They argue that the fidelity bond is sufficient to guard racing against a bookmaker defaulting.

Many of them also want to know what will happen to the other 4 per cent as their capital is sure to be loaned out at no less than 7½ or 8 per cent.

With close to 700 registered bookies in Queensland you don't need to be an Einstein to work out that there will be close to $28,000 in kitty once the bookmakers are paid their annual interest.

It seems inequitable that a bookie in a remote country area who fields only six or eight times a year has to pay the same amount as a Brisbane man who stands up three times a week.

That may be an extreme comparison even though the circumstances do exist.

On the other hand it is hardly right that a Cairns fielder who holds little more than $1,000 a meeting should pay the same as a Brisbane paddock bookmaker who would hold 10 times that amount ON ONE RACE!

Report

Another point local men are objecting to is a report some time ago that the QBC made the proposal to the Minister for Racing that the $1,000 guarantee be instituted.

It was supposed to have been a unanimous decision of all Queensland bookies,' a local fielder told me yesterday, 'but most of us in the Far North knew nothing about it until it became law.'

There is no doubt another side of the story but I - and dozens of Far North bookmakers - would like to hear about it.

Whatever the outcome of the whole business, the $1,000 guarantee threatens to sound the death knell for the small operator who has a bank of only about $2,000 to $3,000 to work on.

Document No. 8 is over the signature of the North Queensland Racing Association bookmakers. The address is 149 Goldsmith Street, Mackay. It is dated 16th February 1972 and it is addressed to the Secretary of the North Queensland Racing Association, Townsville. It states:

Dear Sir,

I have been instructed by my Association to acquaint you of a resolution which was moved and passed by unanimous vote of all members at a meeting of Mackay Bookmakers Association held on 15th February, 1972.

The resolution moved was as follows -

That the NQRA and Minister for Racing, Sir Gordon Chalk be informed that Mackay Bookmakers Association reject any proposal that they be bound to join the Queensland Bookmakers Council, and that further in regard to any proposed Fidelity Bondage required of Bookmakers, that they also be allowed a choice of where the Bond be obtained from, either as a body or individually, providing, of course what such Bond be in accordance with any provisions set down at Government level.'

In effect our proposal simply requires that we be allowed the choice of obtaining any required Fidelity Bond from a suitable source, (e.g. The type of Bond already required by Queensland Trotting Board) rather than be forced to join the Queensland Bookmakers Council and in turn be obligated to that Council only.

To the very best of local knowledge, we feel that it can honestly be stated that to date, and particularly since lie introduction of Turn-Over Tax, there has never been one single case of any Bookmaker from Mackay area having ever defaulted in payment of Turn-Over Tax, whereas such would not appear to be the case in so far as Brisbane is concerned.

Therefore our Association members are very reluctant and apprehensive at the possibility that we should have to help shoulder the burden of responsibility by being forced or bound in any way to join the Queensland Bookmakers Council without being given the free choice of obtaining alternative means of coverage.

Document 9 is a circular letter dated 17th December 1971 over the signature S. Sheldon, President of the Queensland Bookmakers Council, 504 Marine Parade, Labrador, Queensland, to all affiliated Associations. It reads:

The Management Committee has had a complete audit and investigation made of the Council's financial activities for the period 1st October 1969 to 31st October 1971, and enclosed herewith is a copy of the Certificate of Audit as supplied by V. M. Scott, Public Accountant.

The Auditor has also certified that Mr Cerutti's financial reports dated 31st October 1970 and 31st May 1971 were correct in detail. This certification Will be made available to all delegates and submitted for their perusal at a meeting to be held in January 1972.

Wishing all your Members a Happy Christmas, and plenty of luck in the New Year. They will need it. Let me now read from the Queensland Bookmakers Council statement of receipts and payments for the period 1st October 1969 to 31st October 1971.


The PRESIDENT - Order! Is that a balance sheet or a mass of statistics in dollars and cents?


Senator MCAULIFFE - It is a balance sheet.


The PRESIDENT - I think you could reasonably seek leave to have that incorporated. Let us be rational about it. I do not want to hear any arguments from honourable senators who are seeking to interject. Production of a balance sheet in Hansard is a difficult matter. Is it necessary for the point you wish to make, Senator McAuliffe, that it be incorporated, or will you table it?


Senator MCAULIFFE - With respect, I will speedily go through the payments - the expenditure side - and then seek leave to table it if I may. In fairness to the Minister who will reply, I think he would like to know the items and the payments.


The PRESIDENT - Very well.


Senator MCAULIFFE - The expenditure side shows:

 

Receipts are shown as follows -


Senator O'Byrne - I raise a point of order, Mr President. I draw, attention to standing order 407a which provides that any honourable senator may move that the limit of 1 hour on speeches may be extended for 30 minutes and that such motion shall be put without debate. I intend to move that the honourable senator's time be extended for 30 minutes.


The PRESIDENT - Senator McAuliffehas not yet exhausted his time. When he does, Senator O'Byrne, you may propose that motion.


Senator McAULIFFE - I shall now list the receipts:

 

I have read from the documents which 1 was refused leave to have incorporated in Hansard. They will be there now for everybody to see and to judge. 1 hope that if it does nothing else, it will allow decency to come to the surface. I will be awaiting an explanation, which I have sought tonight, of the $4,000 for the fighting fund. If the Queensland Bookmakers Council is not willing to give the information in response to a request by its members, I think it is the duty of the Minister in charge of racing in Queensland, Sir Gordon Chalk, to tell us about it. Nobody should know better than he, as Minister, who got the $4,000. I made my case last Tuesday week. I must say that as a new senator I am very disappointed in the attitude that was adopted in the chamber this evening. Since I have been here, I have endeavoured to fight hard and fairly. I have tried to support with documented evidence everything I have put forward in this chamber, but when I made my speech on the Queensland Grant Bill last Tuesday week I did not have that evidence. I received it as a result of statements made to the Press.


The PRESIDENT - Order! The honourable senator is trespassing on the Standing Orders in making reference to a Bill that has been before the Senate.


Senator McAULIFFE - I say in conclusion that everybody I have mentioned should welcome a public inquiry - a judicial or police inquiry - because if they have nothing to hide they have nothing to fear.







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