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Tuesday, 6 April 1965

Senator CAVANAGH (South Australia) . - Mr. President, I do not pretend that the matter I propose to raise is of such importance that Senator Wright should have his speech interrupted. Possibly the honorable senator thought that other business was to be introduced, but I was under the impression that it was proposed that the Senate should adjourn at 9.30 p.m. I have taken advantage of the motion for the adjournment to raise a matter that I have raised in the Senate previously. I refer to the disease of arteriosclerosis. Honorable senators may recall that on 30th September last I asked the then Minister for Health whether he would consider inquiring into the method that had been adopted by Dr. Moller of Germany to provide relief from this disease. I received a reply from the late Senator

Wade in which he said that he could not see that any good purpose would be served by pursuing this inquiry. He said that he had received a report from the Royal Australasian College of Physicians, which was of the opinion that no really satisfactory evidence of the value of Dr. Moller's therapy was available. The report of the College further stated that a report from the Max Planck Institute might be helpful, as Dr. Moller stated that information regarding his treatment had been sent to the Institute for evaluation. The Minister said that he had accordingly asked the DirectorGeneral of Health to endeavour to obtain the views of the Institute on Dr. Moller's methods.

Not being satisfied with that reply, I again raised the matter on the same day during the debate on the Estimates. I mentioned that, to my knowledge, people in Adelaide had been cured or apparently cured of this disease as a result of undergoing the treatment of Dr. Moller. I asked the Minister in a not unfriendly way to make a detailed examination of the cases that had been treated by Dr. Moller and to study their medical charts. In his reply, the Minister said -

I return very briefly to arteriosclerosis. Senator Cavanagh made a plea for further consideration of the treatent by Dr. Moller of people suffering from this complaint. I. think that the appropriate attitude that I should take in this matter would bc to say to the honorable senator' that I will read his speech. I will discuss the matter with the officers of my Department rather than attempt an off the cuff analysis of the speech at this time. I would much prefer to have the opportunity of studying the points he made and of making a considered decision on his submissions.

Unfortunately, Senator Wade later passed away, and we do not know what stage he had reached in his investigations. Administration of the portfolio was taken over by Mr. Swartz, who has had an examination of the facts made. However, none of the medical colleges in Australia will advise the Department of Health that it would be justified in inviting Dr. Moller to Australia to demontrate his treatment or that it is advisable to send somebody to Germany to study it. The Minister has furnished a final reply in which he has said that he cannot take the matter any further.

Whilst Dr. Moller's treatment is not accepted by the doctors of Australia as providing any relief, there is strong evidence to suggest that it is curing people of the disease. The only solution offered by Australian medical practitioners is the amputation of affected limbs. I have before me a file which contains letters from people all over Australia who are suffering from the disease and who have been advised to submit to an amputation of either one or both arms or one or both legs, lt would seem that this country is full of sufferers from this disease, which for the most part appears first in the feet and is accompanied by excruciating pain which prevents the patient from sleeping. Finally an incurable ulcer breaks out and when gangrene sets in, no cure can be found, other than amputation of the affected limb. A great number of people in Australia today are amputees because of the inability of Australian doctors to find a cure. It is not for me as a layman to say that the Australian doctors are wrong. Despite my request for consideration of this matter, Australian doctors have failed to accept Dr. Moller's treatment. Strong evidence is available from Germany that while his treatment does not provide a permanent cure of circulatory disorders, at least it can save amputations and permit the patients to continue normal lives with recurring treatment by the machine invented by Dr. Moller.

I have notes of a lecture delivered by Dr. Moller to nurses in West Germany. This lecture forms part of the material for one of the theory examinations of nurses in that country. Dr. Moller states -

Since the discoveries of the French chemist Lavoisier who was executed during the French Revolution, it has been known that burning requires oxygen a fact known to everyone today. An important recognition in biology has been that oxygen, is also necessary for life. Doctors have made use of this for a long time by artificially administering oxygen when breathing has been encumbered; e.g., through pneumonia or smoke or other gas poisoning. However, it is barely a decade that oxygen has been used in medicine as a means of healing serious diseases. In general, the term " suffocation " is used to denote lack of air and hence lack of oxygen in the lungs. But also individual cells, parts of limbs or whole limbs can " suffocate " slowly, should they for one reason or another receive insufficient quantities of oxygen, or be unable to use the oxygen in the blood properly. There is, therefore, the possibility of limited processes of " suffocation " in our bodies, if we may use the expression. The doctor then talks about circulatory disorders. Parts of the body can in this way die off, as does for instance occur in circulatory disorders of legs or arms, which can lead to the dying of toes or fingers. Until recently it used to be necessary in many cases to amputate the joint which had become victim of suffocation.

Up to the present day in Australia it is necessary to amputate the joint. The disease still spreads to the legs and we have no solution other than amputation to relieve pain and to stop the spread of the sores that will not heal.

While the Australian medical profession has no knowledge of the advisability or value of Dr. Moller's treatment, in Australia I submit that there are three cases which could be examined. Honorable senators will recall that during the debate on the Estimates last year I requested that representatives of the Department of Health interview these patients who allege that they have been cured by the treatment of Dr. Moller. My investigations have shown that not one of the patients has been interviewed by officers of the Department of Health for the purpose of tracing their clinical histories or of obtaining the results of the treatment the patients have received. From my investigations, which have included correspondence with Dr. Moller, it appears that there are only two people in Australia who have had his treatment. One of these patients will be returning to Australia in June, and I wish to refer particularly to' that case. To my mind it would prove conclusively that benefit can be obtained from the oxygen therapy treatment of arteriosclerosis as practised by Dr. Moller in Germany. I do not say that it provides a permanent cure or a cure for all cases, but many patients who today are doomed to amputation could be saved from that necessity if they received the oxygen therapy treatment administered by Dr. Moller's machine.

I wish to refer, now, to the case of Mr. Willi Herwig who lives at Cabramatta, New South Wales. The report I have states -

Willi Herwig suffered external injuries at a mine disaster and was admitted to the Kassel City Hospital. The mine disaster injuries did not worry his doctors. However, they worried about his right leg which had a deep bluish colour and it seemed that all blood circulation had stopped. Herwig explained to the doctors that the condition of his leg may have been the result of frostbite be suffered on the Russian front and this' caused a gradually increasing complaint over the years. The doctors' suggestion that his leg should be amputated if he wished to avoid endangering his life terrified him. Finally he was referred through the Medical Benefits Association to Dr. Moller in Weinberg, who has made a name for himself with the oxygen therapy.

Today, 10 years after treatment, the only thing which remains of his dangerous condition is his great gratitude towards Dr. Moller.

That is the first example of a patient who believes that Dr. Moller saved him from amputation. I do not place great reliance upon his testimony because no record is available of his case history other than his word that it was advisable to have amputation and that Dr. Moller cured his complaint with oxygen therapy. 1 refer now to the case of Mrs. Lang of Largs Bay, South Australia. I referred to this case during the debate on the Estimates last year and asked the Minister to have Mrs. Lang interviewed. She has received treatment at the Royal Adelaide Hospital and Queen Elizabeth Hospital in South Australia where no cure could be found for the sore that developed on one of her legs after months of pain in her feet which prevented her from sleeping. Doctors at the Royal Adelaide Hospital advised amputation,, but she travelled to Germany where she was cured by the treatment of Dr. Moller. Senator Drury and myself interviewed Mrs. Lang who today has no pain. However, Dr. Moller had advised her that it is not a complete cure and that while she has circulatory disorders the complaint will recur. From .time to time it will be necessary for her to have further oxygen therapy.

The Lang family sold a dry cleaning business to obtain their return fares to Germany. Since their return to Australia they have not been successful in establishing such a profitable business and are faced with the definite possibility that at some time in the future they will again need to pay their return fares to Germany for continuance of the oxygen therapy treatment available there. Such treatment is not available in Australia and the alternative is amputation of one or both of Mrs. Lang's legs.

The other case to which I refer - and possibly the most startling case - is the only other case in Australia of a person who has received Dr. Moller's treatment. The case, details of which have been given to the Minister for Health (Mr. Swartz), concerns Mrs. Staniek. Mr. and Mrs. Staniek are of German origin. With their three daughters they migrated to Australia, having a contract with the Australian Government under the specialist and scientist migration scheme. Mr. Staniek is a highly qualified design engineer who has done valuable work in Australian national development. He was employed by Perry Engineering Company.

Ltd. in Adelaide. In 1956 his wife developed the most dreaded arteriosclerosis. She was treated at the Royal Adelaide Hospital and at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital. At the request of Mr. and Mrs. Staniek, Mr. Catchpole, the South Australian professor - who specialises in these diseases, used a method of injecting oxygen into Mrs. Staniek's leg, but this had no effect. There was no comparison between this method and that used by Dr. Moller in Germany. Mrs. Staniek was advised by the Royal Adelaide Hospital that it would be necessary to amputate her left leg.

I have a photostat copy of the record of the Royal Adelaide Hospital relating to Mrs. Staniek. lt is dated 20th April 1956. It shows that her age was 44 years, that she was married with three children and was occupied with home duties. She attended the outpatient department for the first time on 24th June 1952. Her whole treatment from then onwards at the Royal Adelaide Hospital until 20th April 1956 is shown. This report was made out by the hospital so that Mrs. Staniek could take it to Dr. Moller to show what had been done by the Royal Adelaide Hospital. It shows the history of her complaint and how she responded to treatment. It is signed by Dr. C. J. McLeay, R.M.O., Hindmarsh Ward, Royal Adelaide Hospital. The surprising thing is that there is an exchange of information between these doctors. Also, the answer to my question shows that the Commonwealth will pay medical benefits to a contributor to a benefits fund who goes to Germany to receive this treatment. Further, as the Minister for Social Services stated, such persons are entitled to sickness benefit if they are unable to work while receiving this treatment and for this purpose the Government will accept a certificate from Dr. Moller. Nevertheless the treatment to which we subscribe by permitting these people to go overseas we will not adopt in Australia.

Dr. McLeayconcluded this report to Dr. Moller with these words -

These notes are a summing up of the attendances at the outpatient department and three admissions to this hospital and it is considered by the surgeon in charge of the case that oxygen therapy will not prevent the need for amputation. .

There is a declaration of the Royal Adelaide Hospital of a need for amputation. It is stated that even oxygen therapy would not obviate that need. When we discover that the need for amputation was overcome, it suggests that the Royal Adelaide Hospital is not fully informed on the method of treatment that would overcome the difficulty that it stated was impossible to overcome. 1 have Dr. Moller's report of 3rd August 1956, which is written in German. According to the translater, it states -

Dear Mr. Staniek

I thank you for your confidence in sending your wife the long way to Kassel for special treatment. Despite your great expenses, f do hope you will not be disappointed. At admission on 3rd June 1956 the left foot was in a very bad condition, lt was found on examinations and temperature reading that the blood circulation was very poor and therefore the gangrenous process within the range of the previously amputated great toe was spreading over the second toe. The ulcerated area was a dish shaped cavity of the size of two two shilling pieces, lt was covered by a smeary layer. In the middle, the top of the base bone of the toe extended. After, four weeks treatment at the Kasseler Special Clinic for Circulatory Diseases, applying oxygen insufflations into the leg arteries as well as local oxygen injections into tissue, combined with the catalysing oxygen aerosol inhalation therapy, the healing, process being much improved, Mrs. Staniek was discharged from the clinic for further outpatient treatment. Today's repeated examination has shown the ulcerated area . was reduced by two-thirds of the original one. There is further on a good tendency of healing by formation of new capillaries. The former funnel shaped deep wound is nearly flattened by granulation building up of new cells. The top of the bone is almost completely skin covered already. Also, the general and physical state of the patient has improved so considerably by the oxygen therapy that' discharge may be expected before long. 1 like to emphasise that now, because of this favorable healing process, the leg is out of danger of being amputated. lt has been saved. 1 would like to mention that the strong will of your wife for recovery was also very favourable.

This is a case in which the Royal Adelaide Hospital said that even this treatment would not save amputation, but after the treatment the doctor who treated the patient says that the leg has been saved. Surely this demonstrates that at least there may be something in the claim that we are making for consideration of Dr. Moller's treatment.

This was not the end of the case of. Mrs. Staniek. In I960 she developed arteriosclerosis in the right leg, which the Royal Adelaide Hospital again said was a case for amputation. Dr. Moller, having treated her again up till the present, wrote on 3rd February 1964 in the following terms -

Re: Mrs. Gertrud Staniek, born Sth June 1911, residing: Adelaide. 71 Morialta Road, RostrevorMagill, South Australia. Mrs. Gertrud Staniek started on 30th May 1956 to receive my treatment against a disease of blocked arteries on both legs with gangrene in the range of her left toes, which spread to the forefoot and affected also the second toe. This process exists since 1952 and was progressing against every treatment and sympathectomy, therefore amputation of the bad left leg was proposed. Because of the long lasting illness and of the threat of amputation, an intense depressed condition was stated. Mrs. Staniek underwent a special treatment in my clinic for circulatory and vascular diseases, as it was also recommended to her by the Director of the Surgery, Clinic of the University of Marburg, Professor Dr. Zenker, now in München.

After having received the special treatment in combination with the here developed oxygen therapy, which was applied in certain intervals, the gangrenous process on the left foot was healed.

Three years later gangrene developed on her right great toe, which during one year's treatment at the Royal Adelaide Hospital could not be stopped. Amputation of the right leg was suggested.

Therefore, Mrs. Staniek travelled disregarding the great expense - again to Kassel and underwent once more my special treatment since February 1961. After demarcation on the gangrenous right foe, it could be removed - the first limb of it. Having received further oxygen therapy, in intervals, also the right foot was healed.

Since then Mrs. Steniek is entirely free of pain, is able to walk, feeling physically strong and has great vital energy.

Tn spite of this, Mrs. Staniek should receive, health maintaining, booster treatments- of oxygen therapy from time to lime.

Surely no further proof is needed that there is at least something in Dr. Moller's treatment that deserves investigation by the Australian authorities. The Director.General of Health, in reply to a request by Mrs. Staniek that this system be introduced into Australia has replied to the effect that it is the responsibility of the doctor treating a patient to prescribe the treatment that shall be used from time to time. With this we agree. But how can a doctor prescribe a treatment about which he knows nothing and about which he can know nothing when he obtains his knowledge of new processes and treatments from journals published by the British Medical Association and the Australian Medical Association which have refused to report the beneficial effects of Dr. Moller's treatment?

Some institutions are not as conservative as is the British medical profession. Mr. Lawn, the member for Adelaide in the South Australian Parliament, wrote to the British Medical Association and received 'a copy of a report that was published in a journal emanating from the Westminister Hospital, London, Ontario, Canada, which

Indicates the results of investigations that were made into this treatment by a Dr. G. A. Clark, M.D., F.R,F.P.S.(G.), F.R.C.S. (Edin), and a Dr. C. C. Ross, O.B.E., M.D., F.R.C.S. (Edin. & C.) London, Ont. Senator Dittmer will possibly be able to help us with the significance of those letters after those names. No doubt he will conscientiously read tomorrow's " Hansard " report of the debate. I can guess at the meaning of some of the letters. Obviously Dr. Clark is a man of substance in the medical profession. He refers to intra-arterial oxygen insufflation in the treatment of peripheral vascular insufficiency and gives a preliminary report on 117 cases in these terms -

This method of treatment is not new, although I must confess complete ignorance of the treatment until January of last year when it was brought to my attention by a local businessman who had been advised to have his leg amputated in 1951 for diabetic gangrene of his foot. He had received treatment in the Moller Clinic in Kassel, Germany, in 1951, and again in 1956. The beneficial result of this treatment interested me enough to take the trip to Germany in 1959. The results that were obtained at that clinic could not help but impress one.

Senator Buttfield - Tell us about the other 116 cases.

Senator CAVANAGH - I have not told the honorable senator about any case yet. I am not trying to ram this down her neck; I am merely trying to convey the reports of those who have studied this matter. The doctor states -

We have treated 117 patients - arteriosclerotic, senile and diabetic, Buerger's syndrome, and postphlebitic syndrome with stasis ulcer. Their ages have varied from 35 to 87 years.

He then goes on to list some ofthe cases and concludes with this remark -

The results we have obtained from this form of treatment have been very promising. Of 117 cases only seven had required amputation.

There is the answer to the honorable senator's question about what the doctor did with the other 116 cases. I believe that it is a satisfactory reply. He goes on -

As yet we feel it is too early to classify the results further.

He summarises his examination of the 117 cases by saying -

This preliminary report represents a pilot clinical study of the application of intra-arterial and local oxygen injection treatment for limb ischaemia. No explanation is offered at this time to clarify the altered vascular state producing these favourable results. However, the nature of these results is such as to encourage continued application of this procedure, and studies have begun to elucidate the mechanism responsible for these changes.

I have referred to three cases in Australia, and in view of the findings of a medical man from Canada who investigated 117 cases, 1 claim that this is not a wildcat method of treatment devised by some puerile professor. It is a method that is well recognised in Germany, devised by a qualified German doctor who has reported on numerous cases. If our doctors or the Department of Health wish to examine these reports to learn the results that have been obtained, they are available. I have before me a list of at least 20 publications, mostly German, on this particular disease. As the " Hansard " report may be studied by certain people who have the right to prescribe this treatment, providing they know anything about it, with the concurrence of honorable senators I shall incorporate the list in " Hansard ".

Zusammenstellung der wichtigsten Veroffentlichungenuber die


von Dr. med. WILHELM MOLLER, Kassel " Reaktionen auf Cer-Aerosol-Inhalationen beim Herdgeschehen und bei Klimaempfindliehkeit."

Vortrag auf dem Kongress fur Herdforschung und-bekampfung in Bad Nauheim am 28.3.1950, ersch. in " Zahnarztliche Rundschau" 1952, Heft 15.

Die katalytische Steuerung des Sauerstoffumsatzes ais Basistherapie."

Vortrag auf Deutscher Therapiewache in Karlsruhe am 5.9.1950, ersch. in " Therapiewoche " 1951. 9-Folge. " Therapie der peripheren Durehblutungsstorungen unter Beruchsichtigung einer verbesserten Methodlk der intraarteriellen Sanerstoffinsuftlation."

Vortrag auf dem Therapiekongress in Karlsruhe am 5.9.1952, ersch. in "Therapiewoche" 1953, 9./10. Heft, 3. Jhg. "Intraarterielle Sauerstofftherapie."

Vortrag auf demInternistenkongress in Wiesbaden am 15.4.1953,

s.   Verhandlungen d. Dtsch. Ges. f. inn, Med. 1953, S. 290-302. " Intravasale Sauerstoff therapie (einschl. der intra venosen)."

Vortrag Therapiekongress in Karlsruhe am 3.9.1953, ersch. in "Die Therapiewoche", Jhg. 1953/54, Heft 17/18, S. 433-439. " Bedeutung der Intravenosen Dauerinfusion mit Sauerstoff fur den Kreislauf."

Diskussionsbemerkung Internistenkongress Monchen am 27.4.1954, ersch. Verh, d. Dt. Ges. f. inn. Med. 54, S. 591. "Neue Erkenntnisseund Wdgd auf dem Gebiete der Sauerstofftherapie (intraarteriell und intravends)."

Vortrag Therapiekongress in Karlsruhe am 4.9.1954, ersch, in " Therapiewoche " 1954/55, Heft 23/24, S. 579-586.

Die therapeutischen Leistnngen des Sauerstoffes in der prophylaktischen Medizin."

Vortrag aufinternat. Kongress fur prophylaktische Medizin am 3.10.1954,

Bad Ragaz, ersch. im "Taschenbuch der prophylaktischen Medizin ", Haug-Verlag, S. 377- 384.

Sauerstofftherapie bel Durchblutungsstorungen.''

Arztl. Praxis VI 42. Okt. 1954. " Die kalte Peripherie als Storfeld mit berdiilinlichcr Wirknng."

Vortrag Kongress Herdforschung, Bad Nauheim am 13.4.1955, ersch. in " Herderkrankungen, Grundlagenforschung und Praxis ", Haug-Verlag, S. 240-243, 257. " Begriffsbestimmung der Sauerstofftherapie."

Vortrag auf 61. Internistenkongress Wiesbaden am 18.4.1955, ersch. in " Verhandlungen d. d. Ges. f. inn. Med.", 1955, S. 135-160. " Die Anwendung der Mikrowellen bei der Behandlung von peripheren Durchblungsstorungen."

Zeitschrift f. Hochfrequenz-Therapic, Heft 4, S. 2 u. 3, Mai 1957. " Sauerstoff-Therapie," 1. Rundfunkvortrag am 16.2.1958, "Neue Wege derSauerstoff-Therapie," 2. Rundfunkvortrag am 13.7.1958.

Beide Vortrage sind im Rahmen der Sendereihe " Wissenschaft und Forschung " des Suddeutschen Rundfunks gehalten und im Druckerschienenim " Medizin. Monatsspiegel, eine Zeilschrift fur den Am ". " Oxymctrie bei Sauerstofftherapie."

Vortrag, gehalten am 27.1.1959 auf dem Internal. Colloquim fur Oxymetrie in Bremen,erschien in dem Werk von Prof. Kramer, Gottingen: "Oxymetric," George Thieme Verlag, Stuttgart. 1960 " Sauerstoff- Therapie a) beim Krebs, b) bei Durclibliitungsstorungen."

VortrSge am 1. u. 2.6.1959 auf dem Europiiischen Fortmildungskongrcss unter der Patenchaft des " European Mcdicum Collegium " in Montecatini Terme (Italian).

Ersch. im August-September.-Heft 1959 der. Zeitschrifl " Der praktische Arzt heute ", VI. Jahrgang Nr. 8/9, Berlin. " Saucrstofttlierapie bei pcriphcren Durcliblutuiigsstorungen."

Vortrag "Akademfe f. iirztl. Fortbildung ", Berlin, Aula Neue Universitiit, 24.1.1960. " Die intra vasalc Daucrapplikatiun von Sauerstoff Medikantcnten im Wechselspicl bei der BehandIting von Durchblutungssforungcn."

Vortrag am 12.4.1961' auf dem Kongress fiir inncre Medizin in Wiesbaden; ersch. Verh. d. Ges. f. inn. med. Band 67. "Der Vitalfarhstoff Sauerstoff bei der Krcbstherapie."

Vortrag am 13.9.1961 auf dem Internation. Konvent fiir Vitalstoffe, Ernahrung und Zivilisationskrankheiten in Bad Aachen. " Arbcitspersonlichkcit und Kreislaufschiiden im modernen Bcriifslebcn."

Vortrag am 29.11.1961 auf der Arbcitstagung nordhessischer Industrieller fiir Rationalisierung und Wirlschaftsforderung in Volkmarsen. "Spezielle Rehandliingsmethoden bei artcriellen Durchblutungsstorungcn."

Vortrag am 15.9.1963 auf dem 25. Kongress f. Nttturhcilkunde in Freudenstadt.

Ersch. Februar-Heft 63 Zeitschrift f. " Physikalischdiittetischc Therapie ".

Among those publications is one which has been translated, to some extent, into English. Jt is an account to justify oxygen therapy after 10 years treatment. It states -

With the application of intravascular oxygen therapy, combined with the recognised physical and medical methods, over 6,000 cases of circulatory disorders were treated successfully between 1950-1959.

The report of the treatment of these 6,000 cases goes on to say -

We have only presented pictures of those patients who permitted the release of their full names and addresses, thus raising the value of this report. Nevertheless we did not publish these names but they will be supplied on request.

I understand there are no facilities for incorporating photographs in " Hansard ". The booklet contains photographs showing the ulcers on the foot, the decaying of the, foot and,after treatment, the complete cure of the foot. It is available for honorable senators to study if they so desire. 1 want to refer to another publication which I have been given permission to incorporate in " Hansard ". It deals with the special treatment of cases of certain arterial circulatory disorders by Dr. Wilhelm Moller. I have had it translated into English.It shows the success that he has achieved.

Mr. Staniekincludes with his correspondence, which we have asked the Minister to have evaluated by his experts, photographs of his wife's condition. Again, we cannot have them printed in " Hansard ", but per-' haps I might describe them. Alongside the first photograph are stated her medical history, her date of birth and the diagnosis. It is dated 23 rd April 1956. It shows where the left great toe had been amputated at the Royal Adelaide Hospital'. The second photograph, taken three months after the amputation, shows the ulcers still spreading.

Tt can be seen from the photograph that practically all the big toe has disappeared and that only the bone is showing. A photograph dated 25th May 1956 shows the patient in a depressed condition leaving Adelaide for Germany. The next photograph, which is dated July 1956, shows the remarkable success after the patient had received oxygen therapy for six months. It was applied by Dr. Moller at Kassel. It shows the skin holding over the exposed bone in the toe. The next photograph dated 7th October 1956, shows Mrs. Staniek happily reunited with her family at the Adelaide airport. In January 1957 Mrs. Staniek's foot had returned to normal. Three years later gangrene developed because she did not receive the treatment which was recommended by Dr. Moller at Kassel. The next photograph, which is dated 10th July 1962, shows further progress in the healing process. The next photograph, which is dated 20th December 1962, shows the wound almost closed, and the photograph which is dated 4th February 1963, shows the foot returned to normal. The last photograph, which is dated 23rd December 1963, shows that the patient can walk for hours and feels healthy and happy.

Therefore, the woman owes the fact that she has two legs to the treatment of Dr. Moller in Germany. Amputation was inevitable had the treatment continued in Australia. Mr. Staniek was a man who was brought out by the Government to help Australia's future development and progress. He wrote to the then Minister of Health in South Australia, who I am happy to say is now the ex-Minister of Health. I shall read extracts from the letter. It states -

In 1950 I migrated with my wife and 3 daughters aged 17, 10 and 7 to Australia on a contract with the Australian Government, based on the Specialists and Scientists Migration Scheme.

As a high qualified Design Engineer, I have done valuable work regarding National Development of Australia. . . .

In 1960 the same trouble started on the right leg, as foreseen by Dr. Moller, if the oxygen treatment would not be applied in some intervals to maintain her health. My efforts were in vain to get this treatment to be introduced in South Australia.

As a result of several discussions with doctor Mr. Catchpole from the University of Adelaide, it was decided for Mrs. Staniek to receive oxygen injections into the main arteries of her legs. Even this was done by a very primitive method, using an oxygen-filled syringe. It was surprisingly quick releasing my wife from her terrible pain. A simul taneously applied powder treatment resulted in a shocking setback of pain and blackening of the sick toe.

I direct attention to that matter because in another letter the Minister said that suitable machines were available in Australia. The letter continues -

Further oxygen treatment at the R.A.H. did not show much improvement. Mr. Catchpole suggested at beginning of January 1961 to amputate the right leg as no other treatment was available.

I come now to the appeal that was made to the Minister. The letter states -

Now, please consider my problem. I have sacrificed all my savings of 10 years work in Australia. I have lost my home by forced auction of the mortgager, in order to prevent my wife from amputation of both her legs. I am glad my efforts were so much successful. But my wife and 1, we are Australian citizens by naturalisation. We left three daughters and their families behind in Adelaide, when we left temporarily for Germany. We would like to be reunited with them, the sooner the better. 1 think we have the right to stay in Australia, but not being condemned to stay overseas, because of the only lack of one medical treatment not available in Australia, which on the other hand is a vital question for the health of my wife. Everybody with heart trouble, diabetics or other incurable sufferers from any other common disease are receiving their treatments as well in Australia as in any other part of the world. Why, I would like to ask you, should I be made an inexcusable exception to sufferers of so-called "incurable" circulatory diseases? In my opinion, this is not fair to mankind, as long as a treatment somewhere in the world exists, which proved to be so highly successful. Doctors are obliged to help patients with all their knowledge and the up to date scientific medical research in view of new developments ... All I want is to return to Australia with my wife, without fears of being lost there. I have been confronted twice within eight years time with the shocking proposition of Australian doctors for amputation of my wife's legs - and I have experienced twice the wonderful effect of "Dr. Moller's oxygen therapy" during the same time, who saved both her legs from amputation, herewith returning my wife to a new, happy and normal life.

Surely these facts are worthy of further investigation. The Minister should not simply refer them to his advisers, who have seen nothing about the matter in the Australian medical journals, although there is an abundance of proof in foreign publications. Surely it is reasonable to ask that these people be interviewed by the Department to see whether what they say is correct. I have the medical history of Mrs. Staniek here, but I have not dared to read it to the Senate because I do not know the medical terms. It can be studied by members of the medical profession. It was written by a medical man. According to Dr. Moller, Mrs. Staniek has obtained some relief from the treatment.

The matter was submitted to the Minister for Health for examination by the officers of his Department. In his reply he said -

Whilst admitting that Dr. Moller's treatment has been beneficial to Mrs. Staniek, the success of an isolated case is not convincing evidence that this form of treatment is superior to that based on orthodox lines.

Senator O'Byrne - That is, cutting the legs off.

Senator CAVANAGH - As Senator O'Byrne has said, the treatment based on orthodox lines is to cut the legs off. This method adopted by Dr. Moller has been successful in one particular case. I do not say that it would be more successful than amputations in a number of cases. I am not a medical man and I cannot dispute that fact. But there may be other Mrs. Stanieks in Australia. There may be other people who are suffering from this disease and who would respond to similar treatment.

If the Department of Health were concerned with advance treatment of those who are having amputations today, it would find out by investigation and interview either with the person herself or her relatives the facts of the case of Mrs. Lang of whom I spoke earlier. There is the case, too, of Mr. Herwig about whom I have spoken. We find that there are in Australia at least three cases who have responded to this treatment. I am not holding myself up as an authority on medicine, surgery or the treatment that is necessary for these cases. But I say that there is ample proof here of the success of this treatment. This is not a question of a quack cure. It is a question of treatment administered by a proper medical authority who has had patients referred to him by over 200 clinics in Germany, as revealed in a publication from which I quoted. Patients have been referred to Dr. Moller for this treatment by the Medical Benefits Association of Germany in an attempt to have them cured. This is deserving of some investigation. The Minister finishes his letter by saying -

In conclusion, I should like to mention that the method of treatment by intra-arterial injection of oxygen is not unknown in this country. It has been used on selected cases, but has been shown to be of limited value in the treatment of Arteriosclerosis because this disease is a general systemic disease and any local effects are likely to be evanescent. There is nothing magical about Dr. Moller's treatment and although there could be varying methods in the techniques of using it, it is thought that, without limitation, it would be available in the major hospitals for the medical staff of these institutions should they consider its use indicated.

Mrs. Staniekhad some therapy treatment from doctors in the Queen Elizabeth Hospital. By this method they could inject oxygen into her and it had no effect upon her condition. No-one knows whether this is the same type of machine as Dr. Moller has used. The evidence and propaganda suggest that it is not the same machine. But no-one knows whether it is or not. No-one knows whether Australian doctors arc capable of applying this method. If oxygen is injected into the blood, there is the risk at all times of the formation of an air bubble in the oxygen. If that air bubble touches the heart or the brain, it means good-night. For that reason, doctors are afraid to use this method. But with a machine in operation such as Dr. Moller has, which regulates and purines the inflow of oxygen that risk no longer exists. I think the important point about the report made by Dr. Clark, of Canada, is that he had done 117 cases and there had been no danger of any air bubbles forming or any serious complications. 1 conclude, because 1 do not want to weary the Senate although I feel concerned with this question-

Senator Mattner - Hear, hear!

Senator CAVANAGH - My friend has not had, nor have any of his relatives or friends had, this dreaded disease, otherwise he would be more concerned. The honorable senator complacently lies back in his comfortable chair and does not give a damn for the rest of the world. I am dealing with a matter of great interest. If the honorable senator had any humane spark in him, he would be much concerned with the whole matter.

Mr. Staniek,who is in Germany, has written to me and said -

I am going to return to Australia with my wife on board of the German cargo ship-

Senator Mattner - That is very decent of him.

Senator CAVANAGH - He has a responsibility. I think Australia would welcome him. After all, he was engaged on development work in Australia. He was given Australian citizenship, which the Government will not give to some migrants here. He has been received as an acceptable citizen. He is a man in unfortunate circumstances who wants to show up the inhuman attitude of neglect that is being shown towards people whose limbs are being cut off and burnt in incinerators, because that is the orthodox method. The honorable senator has some grievance because this man might be returning to Australia. But Mr. Staniek is returning to Australia. He will arrive about 10th June. He is bringing back with him his wife for whose condition one of the best hospitals in Australia, the Royal Adelaide Hospital, said there was no cure but amputation. She will walk down the gangway of the boat or the steps of the aeroplane, whichever it may be, and stand on her feet as long as anyone desires her to stand.

I am holding this example up against the medical profession which says: " We will not entertain that course of treatment at all ". I am not asking anything unreasonable. I am not saying this is a cure. I am saying only that there is strong evidence that people are enjoying much desired relief as the result of Dr. Moller's efforts in Germany. If the Government feels any responsibility for the welfare of the Australian people, it will have every investigation made into whether there is any possibility of this treatment being available in Australia or being beneficial to Australians. The Department has not taken the trouble to interview the living examples of the results of the treatment as it was asked to do last October. I have been informed through Mr. Staniek that Dr. Moller would be prepared to visit Australia if he was asked by a university, a hospital or the Government. But the Government is not interested in this question. The Minister wants to dispose of the question because he does not suffer from arteriosclerosis. But any honorable senator opposite could suffer this disease some day. As I have said, I have cited an isolated case. There is a history available of people who are without limbs today because of this dreaded disease and who are seeking some remedial action yet the medical profession, along with the Department of Health, is not prepared to interest itself sufficiently to take any action to investigate this whole matter.

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