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Wednesday, 14 October 1964

Senator GORTON (Victoria) (Minister for Works) . - I am not concerned with Mr. Sachs and I have not attacked his associations in any way. I have not attacked his personal associations; I do not know anything at all about them. In this case the Attorney-General (Mr. Snedden) was attacked in this chamber for having made an allegedly false statement in another place. The statement he made in the other place was that he understood that Mr. Sachs in a court had himself said that he was a Communist, in 1950 or thereabouts.

Senator Branson - He said it on a television programme, too.

Senator GORTON - That may be so. In fact Mr. Sachs made this statement in a court in 1945. If he was not a Communist, he should not have said so; but if he did say so, then the Attorney-General is entirely correct.

Senator Cohen - Where did he make the statement?

Senator GORTON - In a court in South Africa in 1945. This is the sole point at issue in the situation: Did this man make the statement that the Attorney-General says he made in a court in South Africa. I say that he did. I say that the AttorneyGeneral is, therefore, entirely justified in making the statement which he did. I know nothing else about this man. I have not attacked his associations or anything else about him. But I do believe that the Attorney-General was entitled to make a statement which was a factual statement. That is all he has done, and that is all I am concerned about.

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