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Wednesday, 16 September 1936

The CHAIRMAN (Senator Sampson (TASMANIA) - Order! The item under discussion is " Census and Statistics ". The matter to which the honorable senator is referring has nothing whatever to do with the question.

Senator J V MACDONALD (QUEENSLAND) - I disagree with certain statistics published in the Commonwealth Year-Booh, because they are incomplete, and I agree with a good deal of what Senator Hardy has said regarding the necessity for the disclosure of further information. The first idea in Senator Hardy's mind was to get some gauge of the wealth of the big people in Australia. We should like to know the earnings of, not only the small men, but also of big men like Trautwein, who can stud his gold pass with diamonds, and yet " do " the Commonwealth and State Governments for tens of thousands of pounds.

Senator Dein - The royal commission could not even find out what Trautwein got out of the fruit machines.

Senator J V MACDONALD (QUEENSLAND) - More shame to the royal commission. More power should be given to the authorities to demand complete information about the wealth of every individual, institution, company, or bank.

Senator Dein - It would take a royal commission to find out why Trautwein was in the Labour party.

Senator J V MACDONALD (QUEENSLAND) - There arp numbers of people in that party, as wf-11 as in other parties, who are members of it for the good of themselves rather than of the party. I should like to quote several passages 1 rom The New Era, but it is sufficient to say that the great masters of the world hold meetings which direct the financial policy of the world, and, as I have said before in this chamber, our great private banks receive their directions from London and New York. Although I am opposed to the theory of the Douglas Credit system-

The CHA.LIi.MAE.- That has nothing to do with the item.

Senator J V MACDONALD (QUEENSLAND) - I am sorry to disagree, but it has a good deal to do with census and statistics.

Senator Foll - Tell us something about Alberta.

Senator J V MACDONALD (QUEENSLAND) - I am glad that the government of Alberta has taken a new step forward. Senator Dein reminds me of a schoolmaster who knows nothing outside his text books. In order that the honorable senator may acquaint himself with his opponents' case I ask him to read this article in Tha New Era.

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