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Thursday, 6 October 1927

Senator OGDEN (Tasmania) .- The question before the Senate is a very simple one. Senator McLachlan interjected that there had not been a breach of privilege. That is directly at variance with the opinion expressed by Senator J. B. Hayes, and with the facts themselves. As an honorable senator I am at liberty to give notice of a question or a motion. On the 9th May that privilege was withdrawn from me. Senator J. B. Hayes has admitted that the chairman of the Public Accounts Committee was deprived of the opportunity to submit its report. That was another distinct breach of privilege. What harm would be done if the motion were carried? It would simply amount to a declaration that in the opinion of the Senate there had been a very serious breach of privilege. The passage of the motion can do no harm.

Senator J B Hayes - Can it do any good ?

Senator OGDEN - The motion does not express any censure of the President or of the Government. Those who vote against it will practically condone the wrong practice that was adopted on the 9th May.

Senator McLachlan - Wrong practice is one thing and breach of privliege another.

Senator OGDEN - It was a distinct breach of privilege. The thanks of the Senate are due to Senator Givens for having attempted, without any personal feeling, to preserve the rights and privileges of honor-able senators. The motion should be agreed to so that it will be laid down definitely for all time that the Senate does not condone such a practice as that adopted on the 9th May.

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