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Wednesday, 2 November 1921

Senator PAYNE (Tasmania) . - My reading of this clause leads me to believe that it was drafted with one object, and one only, and that was in order that the Department of Trade and Customs mightbe given an opportunity to secure the services of expert men, without those men being required to go through an examination. I cannot understand why there should be any difference of opinion as to the intention of the clause, or any objection to the suggestion of the Minister that it might be postponed, in order that further consideration might be given to it.

Senator PRATTEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) - Who 'has objected to its postponement?

Senator PAYNE - I understand that its postponement is objected to. I can see no objection to giving a man. who has served his time in the Permanent Naval Forces an opportunity, without having to go through an examination for admission to the Service, to come to the assistance of a Department in which his expert knowledge would be of use.

Senator THOMAS (NEW SOUTH WALES) -Would the honorable senator object to such men being appointed to the Postmaster-General's Department to make canvas bags?

Senator PAYNE - It is for the reason suggested by the honorable senator that the Minister (Senator Russell) has proposed the postponement of the clause. Although he did so twenty-five minutes ago, it is only now that Senator Thomas appears to be prepared to accept his suggestion.

Senator PRATTEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) - The honorable senator does not contend that the Minister's offer to postpone the clause should block discussion on it?

Senator PAYNE - No; but I cannot understand why, in discussing the matter with which the clause deals, 'honorable senators should wander from clause 33 to clause 79, when there is no connexion between the two. I am prepared to accept the suggestion of the Minister, and have the clause postponed, with a view to seeing whether it may be extended to embrace other portions of the fourth division.

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