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Thursday, 11 August 1921


Senator PAYNE (Tasmania) . - One is at a great disadvantage in dealing with a technical matter of this kind when honorable senators are tired. I thank the Minister for his courteous explanation, but it has not in any way refuted my argument in support of the inclusion of ribbons in the previous subitem.


Senator Russell - We have to regulate this by the standards of the machines here now, and the ribbons referred to by Senator Payne are too wide to bo made by them.


Senator PAYNE - The Minister stated that the object of the increased duty on these goods is designed to protect an industry engaged in the manufacture of hat galoons. I have been delighted to hear that this industry has greatly improved its position year after year under the previously existing duties. The Minister may propose what duties he pleases on hat galoons, but my objection is that this sub-item brings under a duty of 50 per cent a multiplicity of ribbons that can by no stretch of the imagination be described as hat galoons. The Minister's argument, therefore, falls to the ground.


Senator Russell - The article to which the honorable senator refers will be imported without the duty until such time as we have a plant here to manufacture it.


Senator PAYNE - Is it not a fact that numbers of ribbons manufactured may contain exactly the same number of ribs as hat galoons, and yet not be at all suitable for the purposes for which hat galoons are used?


Senator Russell - That may be.


Senator PAYNE - I happen to know that there are various ribbons that would not be used as hat galoons, and yet, because they contain less than a certain number of ribs tothe lineal inch, they are to be taxed under this Tariff at 50 per cent. I have here a sample of a hat galoon manufactured at the factory in Collingwood, and it is described as "Ribbon galoon for school badges." It isused for bands for school hats.


Senator Russell - I will tell the honorable senator what I am prepared to do. If it is found on further inquiry that there is any mistake in connexion with this matter, and that the articles to which the honorable senator has referred are not manufactured in Australia, I will undertake to recommit the item.


Senator PAYNE - I do not wish to press the matter at this particular moment, but I suggest that its- consideration bo postponed so that we may deal with it while it is fresh in our minds.


Senator E D MILLEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) - The Minister's offer is a reasonable one, and ought to be accepted.

SenatorDRAKE-BROCKMAN (Western Australia) [4.13 a.m.]. - Senator Payne was courteous enough to hand me a document relating to this matter containing reasons why the duty should not be as provided in the schedule. This document states that a. workroom, called a factory, in Victoria specializes in supplying hat bands for schools and colleges, but that it does not manufacture: ribbons' or galoons. It so happens thatI have been through this factory inCollingwood. It started in 19 10 with one loom and a capital of£4,000. To-day, the- capital is £52,000, and the factory manufactures not only galoons, but also all classes of ribbons. I think that nearly every ribbon that is worn by our returned soldiers comes out of that factory.


Senator Payne - They do not manufacture all sorts of ribbons there.







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