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Thursday, 4 August 1921

The CHAIRMAN - The honorable senator must not discuss the question of freights.

Senator GARDINER - It is remarkable, that the Minister may travel all round the question, but . as soon . as I begin to answer him I am ruled out of order. I wish to discuss the matter from the point of view of the farmers, and I say that this duty is of no value to them, but is a mere pretence, and ought to be struck out. It is of no use Senator Russell saying that he ''desires the duty in order that he may negotiate with New Zealand or Canada; New Zealand sends no wheat here, and therefore the duty cannot affect the Dominion. I hope that Senator Lynch will stand to his guns, and that there are sufficient independent senators who will refuse to consent to this, pretended Protective duty.

Senator Russell - How would the honorable senator sell wheat to New Zealand; would he treat the Dominion as a foreign country, or as' a portion of Australasia?

Senator GARDINER - If I entered into that question, the Chairman would call me to order.

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