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Tuesday, 26 July 1921

Senator PRATTEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) . - It will be remembered that when this clause was last before the Committee I desired to move an amendment, in reference to the salary of the chairman, to substitute £1,500 for £1,400, and that progress was reported just at that moment,. I wish to know whether I must move that amendment before the amendment of Senator Bolton is decided, or. whether I shall be at liberty to do so afterwards.

The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN - The honorable senator will remember that I ruled him out of order when he submitted the amendment to which he alludes. The Presiding Officer is bound as much as any other senator by the Standing Orders, and in this case the standing order states very definitely that no amendment can be proposed to any words which the Senate has resolved shall be left standing. It will be remembered that Senator Earle, when this clause was last before the Committee, moved to strike out the words "which, together with his salary, shall not exceed £1,400 a year." The word that Senator Pratten desires to strike out is one of the words which the Senate has decided shall remain part of the clause, and, therefore, under the Standing Orders, the honorable senator's amendment cannot be received. .

Senator PRATTEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) - I am sorry to disagree with your ruling -

The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN.The honorable senator cannot do so now. There is an amendment before the Chair., and the only way to get over this difficulty is for the honorable senator to move the recommittal of the clause later on.

Senator PRATTEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) - At the end of the Bill ?


Senator PRATTEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) - When the. debate was adjournedI expressedmy disagreement with your decision, which very rigidly confined the discussion to the latter portion of the clause. If you will allow the matter to be discussed after Senator Bolton's amendment has been disposed of, I shall be satisfied.

The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN.The standing order is very definite; the Committee cannot reconsider . the first portion of the clause after the amendment before the Chair has been dealt with.

Senator PRATTEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) -This clause deals with the Chairman of the Board and his duties.

The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN - When I took the chair this afternoon I expected the honorable senator to dissent from my ruling; and, as he did not rise, I called on Senator Bolton, who rose to. speak, and who has now submitted an,amendment after the words which the honorable senator desires, to., amend.

Senator PRATTEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) -I am sorry that, you did not see me rise when the clausewas called from the Chair, and I trust, in the circumstances, you will allow me the latitude I desire.

The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN.I cannot allow the honorable senator to move in the direction he desires, as the. standing order is definite.

Senator PRATTEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) - Then I dissentfrom your ruling, and shall move accordingly.

The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN - It is too late now to dissent from my ruling, as there is already an amendment before the Chair.

Senator PRATTEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) - Then I shall waituntil Senator Bolton's amendment hasbeen disposed of.

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