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Friday, 29 April 1921

Senator ELLIOTT (Victoria) .- I have listened with interest to the arguments submitted, and I am totally opposed to vicious or savage penalties. I think the Government would have been well advised if they had allowed the clause to remain as it is. Honorable senators will remember that 100 years ago the laws throughout the world, including those in our own Empire, were extraordinarily se v ere, and men were transported for stealing a pocket handkerchief or killing a rabbit.

Senator Duncan - What about the number of times the honorable senator has " savagely " punished men for failing to salute him?

Senator ELLIOTT - I was practically the only senior officer who emphatically protested against an attemptto institute the practice of saluting a general's motor car.

SenatorPearce - I rise to a point of order. On a discussion of what is or is not an adequate penalty in such circumstances as are set out in the clause under consideration, I submit that it is not in order to indulge in personal reminiscences which have no bearing whatever.

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