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Thursday, 28 April 1921

Senator E D MILLEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) (Minister for Repatriation) ,.: - Let me say that I appreciate Senator Gardiner's explanation. I assumed that his remark was made hastily, or I should have taken exception! to it at the. time.- I still, however, wish to stress the . point that there- is sufficient in the. quotation, which I read- to justify me in making the interjection I did.

Senator Gardinerhas not attempted to deal with the portions of his speech which I quoted.

Senator Gardiner - I could not find them.

Senator E D MILLEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) - I marked them for the honorable senator in. pencil1. Senator Gardiner distinctly ''referred - to the Labour party's proposals, and they were very clear and definite. The honorable senator would not venture to put himself in opposition to them. This statement was published in the press in the early part of the month, of June, 1918 -

We are of opinion that a complete military victory by the Allies over the Central Powers can only be -accomplished by the further sacrifice of millions of human lives, the infliction of incalculable misery and suffering upon the survivors, and the creation of an intolerable burden of debt to the impoverishment of the workers who must bear such burdens, and the practical destruction of civilization among the white races of the world. We therefore urge that immediate negotiations be initiated for an international Conference for the purpose of arranging equitable terms of peace, on which Conference the working class organizations shall have adequate representation, and the inclusion of women delegates, and. we further urge that the British self-governing dominions and Ireland shall be granted separate representation thereon.

Senator Duncan - That is what I referred to when I made my interjection.

Senator E D MILLEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) - I wish only to say, in conclusion,, that I do not think that even Senator Gardiner will seriously contend that I misrepresented him when I referred to the picture he drew for the consideration of members of this Chamber: He made for us a sketch of the peace delegates around the peace table - a' sketch of the German peace delegates- on one side and the Allied peace delegates on the other side - and asked what harm could come from that. Honorable senators, I think, will see that I was- justified in the interjection I made.

Senator THOMAS (NEW SOUTH WALES) - Before the honorable senator resumes his seat, will he say what is to be the business for next week?

Senator E D MILLEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) - The usual occupation of the Senate is work, and I see no prospect of any alteration of that programme, in view of the somewhat congested state of our business-paper. There are three Bills' to be considered. There is the Def ence Bill, which I had hoped would have made better progress than has been found possible to-day; the Air Defence

Bill, and the Public Service Bill. In addition, there is a Ministerial statement to bediscussed, if honorable senators desire to discuss it. In the circumstances, I do not see a prospect of any alteration of our programme for this or next week.

Question resolved in the affirmative.

Senate adjourned at 10.8 p.m.

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