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Thursday, 28 April 1921


Senator GARDINER - It would come without loss of safety.

Later on I interjected -

Do you think you are helping them when you talk peace by negotiation?

Senator Gardinerreplied

Is talking peace by negotiation leaving off fighting unless both sides leave off?

I think I have read sufficient to justify the statement that a proposition was submitted by the party to which Senator Gardiner belongs for peace by negotiation. During the same speech* Senator Gardiner 6aid -

To me there are three possible endings to the war. I put first, Victory for the Allied arms, j . . . for which I believe all Australia long3; secondly, peace by negotiation, which I and the party to which I belong would accept to-morrow; and the third dread possibility is peace after a German victory.

The first was extremely difficult, though highly desirable, the second could not be considered, and the third was unthinkable.


Senator Gardiner - May I look at the volume of Hansard from which the Minister for Repatriation is quoting?


Senator E D MILLEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) - Certainly. I invite honorable senators in this Chamber, if they have any doubt concerning the impression conveyed by the speech of the honorable senator, to peruse the records and draw their own conclusions. If they do that,,. I have not the slightest doubt that they will realize that I have not twisted the honorable senator's remarks in any way. I have taken, as far as I can, sentences which are complete in themselves, and nowhere can I find anything which would justify me in modifying the statement I made, that on that occasion he was specially urging us to direct our attention to arriving at peace by negotiation.







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