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Friday, 9 July 1915


The PRESIDENT - The Senate has decided that the Bill must be read a second time. After the order of the Senate has been complied with, the honorable senator will be entitled to raise a question of privilege.

Bill read a second time.


Senator Lynch - I wish to know the position of the Senate arising out of the declaration from the Chair that " the Ayes have it." During the course of debate certain honorable senators, particularly Senator Bakhap, spoke strongly against these measures, and though that honorable senator is in the chamber, I observe that he did not indicate by his voice his opposition to the BUI.


Senator Bakhap - Because there has been an arrangement with reference to these Bills.


The PRESIDENT - That is not a question of .privilege. Any honorable senator is entitled to address himself to the question of the second reading of the Bill without giving his voice one way or another, when the question for the second reading is put from the Chair.


Senator Lynch - In view of the presence of Senator Millen and Senator Bakhap, is the declaration from the Chair to be understood as meaning that the Bill has been carried unanimously?


The PRESIDENT - The decision from the Chair was that there was a majority for the " Ayes." Whether that majority comprised the whole of the senators or not does not alter the position in any way.


Senator Bakhap - I have called " No " several times.


The PRESIDENT - The constitutional obligation that the Bills must be carried by an absolute majority of the whole Senate applies only to the third reading of such Bills as these. Ordinarily their third reading will take place on Wednesday next, for which a call of the Senate has been made.

In Committee:

Clauses 1 and 2, preamble, and title agreed to.

Bill reported without amendment; report adopted.







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