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Friday, 30 April 1915

Senator O'KEEFE - Yes, they can. Senator Newland has in mind the case of a wealthy man who with money behind him may take his case from Court to Court, and thus perhaps defeat the ends of justice, but I refuse to believe that any civil Court would allow that to be done.

Senator NEWLANDS (SOUTH AUSTRALIA) - The civil Courtmust allow him that opportunity.

Senator Needham - And it is being done to-day in the Snow case.

Senator O'KEEFE - No, it is not. That is not the case of a spy.

Senator Needham - But is not that man's cass as bad as that of a spy '? What is the good of quibbling about terms ?

Senator O'KEEFE - The Government are satisfied with the amendment which has come from another place. I do not agree with many of the tilings said in the discussion elsewhere, and I am not disposed to join the army of malcontents who appear to be anxious at this time to hold up everything as a grievance against the Government. I sympathize with the Government in the difficulties that are confronting them, and I sympathize with the authorities of the Defence Department. I will support the amendment because it provides such safeguards for civilians as should be included in a measure of this sort.

Senator NEWLANDS (SOUTH AUSTRALIA) - The safeguards are in the original clause.

Senator O'KEEFE - But they are not sufficient in my opinion, and although Senator Newland may think that this amendment will sweep them away in extreme cases, we should not legislate for such cases merely on a supposition that a situation of that nature might arise.

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