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Friday, 8 May 1914

The PRESIDENT - Standing order 57 is very definite on the matter -

If any senator shall take notice, or if the Chairman of Committees shall report to the President, that a quorum as aforesaid is not present, the bells shall be rung for two minutes; the President shall then count the Senate, and, if a quorum be not present, he shall forthwith adjourn the Senate till the next sitting day.

Senator Oakes - May I be allowed to interject, sir? The word "quorum " has been quoted by you ; a quorum is twelve senators.

The PRESIDENT - To me, there seems to be no doubt that if the attention of the presiding officer be called, to the absence of senators, it is imperative upon him to see that a quorum is present. In view of the interpretation which I place upon the standing order, when my attention was called to the attendance in the chamber, I had no other course open to me but to order the bells to be rung so as to form a quorum.

Senator Oakes - With all due respect sir, that is against May's Parliamentary Practice.

Senator O'Keefe - I - I should like to know whether it is customary for an honorable senator who interjects during the course of another honorable senator's speech to be supplied with a proof copy of his interjections? If that is the custom, it is just as well that we should all be made aware of it.

Senator Keating - An honorable sena-, tor can see the proofs if he so desires. That has been the practice since we first met here.

Senator O'Keefe - I - If it is the practice, I should like to know whether honorable senators have a right to correct the proof copy of their interjections, just as they have a right to correct the proof copy of their speeches?

The PRESIDENT - Order ! This discussion is altogether irregular. Had

I not been engaged in speaking to Senator Oakes at the time it arose, I would not have permitted it. However, in order to settle .the matter, I wish to say that the right which honorable senators enjoy is a right to be supplied with a proof copy of their speeches for purposes of correction. I have never heard of anybody being supplied with a proof of his interjections. At the same time, I can see no objection to any honorable senator going to the Hansard staff for the purpose of verifying what he has said.

Senator Keating - A full report of the debates is sent to the Minister's room.

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