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Wednesday, 6 December 1911


Senator MILLEN (New South Wales) . - The Minister of Defence has just used an expression which has created a little doubt in my mind. Of course, I recognise that his remarks had particular reference to any payment of money which may be taken out of the Loan Fund. He said that if any moneys were required from that fund, necessarily a Loan Bill would have to come before the Senate, and to that extent this appropriation, so far as loan moneys are concerned, is really of no avail until a further appeal is made to Parliament. But I understood him to say earlier that Parliament would be appealed to for an appropriation out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund.


Senator Pearce - There is no appropriation made in this Bill.


Senator MILLEN - I am inclined to think that there is. The Minister, I understand, has stated that whether the money is required out of one fund or the other, a specific Appropriation Bill will be brought before Parliament; in other words, that the Government will not rely on any power given in this clause to draw money from either fund.


Senator Pearce - As the Bill was introduced' in another place, this clause contained an appropriation. That has been taken out, and the provision does not now appropriate any money.







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