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Friday, 6 October 1911

Senator VARDON (South Australia) . - I think that the Minister has proved a little too much by his quotations from English legislation on this subject. He has proved thai military decorations and medals are not the personal property of those who hold them. In that case, the Minister himself is going a great deal too far in this Bill, because he is going to license persons who may buy such articles. If a man has no right to sell a medal, surely the Minister has no right to give a licence to some one who will buy. But that is exactly what the Minister is going to do.

Senator Pearce - Not by this clause.

Senator VARDON - The next clause provides that the Minister may license a museum or a collector of curios to buy medals or decorations from a man - which, however, we have been informed, the man has no right to sell.

Senator de Largie - The honorable senator is out of order in discussing another clause.

Senator VARDON - There is a Chairman in the chair ; and if I am out of order, he will correct me.

Senator de Largie - I rise to order. I wish to ask whether Senator Vardon is in order in discussing a clause which is not now before the Committee?

Senator Millen - I should like to point out that Senator Vardon was not discussing another clause. He was simply pointing out that if the Minister's argument be a good one, the Bill goes too far. The honorable senator was answering an argument.

Senator Pearce - He said that, under the next clause, it is proposed to give a licence.

Senator Millen - There is no clause at present in the Bill giving a licence.

The CHAIRMAN - 1 think Senator Vardon is in order.

Senator VARDON - I am very careful not to transgress the Standing Orders at any time. Despite what the Minister says, he cannot deny that it is his intention to move for the insertion of a clause in the Bill for the purpose of licensing persons to purchase medals. We should be wise to strike the clause out altogether, and also to have nothing to do with the clause which the Minister intends to propose, which would license certain persons to buy medals. If we prohibit traffic in medals and decorations, we shall prevent them being hawked about, and shall then have done quite enough.

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