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Wednesday, 4 October 1911

Senator GARDINER (New South Wales) . - I think that the proviso suggested by the Minister might very well be inserted after we have fixed upon 3 tons as the average quantity of coal to be worked. I cannot see why an arrangement for increasing or reducing the quantity cannot be made as successfully with an average of 3 tons as with an average of 3 J tons. - We would err on the side of the men if we provided for such an arrangement. I do not know much about firemen, but I know that on a certain boat a man was over-worked to such an extent that he jumped overboard. He was simply mad in consequence of .the strain which he had had to endure. :

Senator Pearce - Not on our coast.

Senator GARDINER - No. It occurred on a steamer which is heavily subsidized by the Government.

Senator Pearce - The honorable senator is referring to an Orient boat, where there is no restriction.

Senator GARDINER - It is an instance of the conditions in which firemen have to work. If the quantity of coal per man is fixed at 3 tons the Minister's amendment can still be moved. This plan will, I think, encourage the owners of vessels to put iri better appliances. I hope that the amendment of Senator de Largie will be carried, and that the Minister will submit a proposal under which it will be possible to make arrangements suitable to the conditions under which men have to work.

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