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Tuesday, 11 October 1910


Senator FINDLEY (Victoria) (Honorary Minister) . - By leave of the Senate, I desire to withdraw the notice of motion standing in my name and relating to the census questions.


Senator Sayers - I object ; we want to discuss the motion.


The PRESIDENT - No one can object. A motion is not the property of the Senate until it has been moved and read from the Chair. This motion has not been moved, nor has it been read from the Chair. It is the property of the honorable senator who placed it on the notice-paper, and he has the right to withdraw it.


Senator Sir Josiah Symon - He simply need not move it.


Senator Sayers - I think, sir, that you called on the motion, and asked whether it was to be taken as " formal " or " not formal," and Senator Chataway said "not formal."


The PRESIDENT - That is so; but a motion is not the property of the Senate until it has been moved by the honorable senator who put it on the notice-paper, and it has been read from the Chair.


Senator Stewart - We ought to have an explanation as to why the motion has not been moved.


Senator Findley - An explanation was given on Friday last. How many times does the honorable senator want it to be given ?


Senator Stewart - I did not hear it.


Senator Sir Josiah Symon - May I suggest, on a point of order, sir, that it was unnecessary for the Minister to ask leave to withdraw the notice of motion ? All that was necessary was for him not to move it.


Senator Findley - It. was only a matter of form.


Senator Sir Josiah Symon - I think that the error, if there was an error, was in the intimation that the motion was to be withdrawn. No honorable senator need move a motion standing in his name.


Senator Chataway - The Minister asked leave to withdraw the notice of motion.


Senator Stewart - I should like to ask, sir - -


The PRESIDENT - Order ! Is the honorable senator rising to a point of order ?


Senator Stewart - I should like to know exactly why the motion is not to be proceeded with.


The PRESIDENT - It cannot be discussed at present.







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