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Friday, 3 December 1976


Mr SPEAKER -It is not a matter of seeking leave of the House. It is a matter of seeking the indulgence of the Chair, and the Chair grants the indulgence.


Mr MALCOLM FRASER - In the Chifley Memorial Lecture in 1957 named Constitution v. Labour, the present Leader of the Opposition said:

Much can be achieved by Labour members 'of the State Parliaments in effectuating Labour's aims of more effective powers for the National Parliament and for local government Their role is to bring about their own dissolution.

I suggest that that be incorporated in Hansard.


Mr SPEAKER -The right honourable gentleman has asked for leave to have that matter incorporated in Hansard. Is leave granted? There being no objection, leave is granted.

The document read as follows-

Chifley Memorial Lecture 1957 'The Constitution v. Labour', E. G. Whitlam, B.A., LL.B., M.P.

The role of State members:

Much can be achieved by Labour members of the State parliaments in effectuating Labour's aims of more effective powers for the National Parliament and for local government. Their role is to bring about their own dissolution. When the Labour Party holds office in the Commonwealth Parliament, the States which have Labour, governments could readily make agreements under section 51 (xxxiii) and (xxxiv) for the acquisition and construction and extension of railways in the States by the Commonwealth and under section 51 (xxxvii) for the reference to the Commonwealth of many of their present functions, such as those in respect of health and hospitals, ports and fisheries. Irrespective of the political complexions of the Federal government, State Labour governments could do much to set up stronger provincial or regional or local administrations within their own borders. Most of the State governments retain the administration of many things which concern their own capitals and larger cities alone. Ithas always struck me as peculiarly inappropriate for the New South Wales government to run the bus and tram services in Sydney and the bus services in Newcastle, which are clearly matters concerning the residents of those cities alone. There should be metropolitan parliaments, as in Brisbane, to determine for their whole area those things which concern that area alone, e.g. transport, town planning and land use, electricity generation and distribution, water and sewerage supplies, ambulances and fire brigades. Again many regional areas, such as the Riverina, the Hunter Valley, the Clarence River and central and northern Queensland, might have had more attention paid to their conservation and development problems if they had had more effective co-ordination and consultation with the areas concerned.


Mr Scholes -Mr Speaker,I wish to make a personal explanation. I raised the point that the matter was out of context. It is out of context in both time and fact. The Leader of the Opposition, in that lecture in the context of 1957, was advocating a proper diminution of power rather than advocating 2 centralist governments.


Mr SPEAKER -Order! There is no substance in the point of order, and I think the honourable member knows that.


Mr Scholes - I think the Prime Minister's quotation was out of context -


Mr SPEAKER -Order! The honourable member will resume his seat.







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