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Thursday, 18 November 1976
Page: 2845

Mr LYNCH - The quick answer is no.

Opposition members interjecting-

Mr SPEAKER -Order! The House will come to order.

Mr LYNCH - The facts are perfectly clear. In the Budget Speech -

Mr Hurford - Frank Crean -

Mr LYNCH - The honourable gentleman might learn something if he listens for a moment.

Mr Keating - You too could -

Mr LYNCH -Mr Speaker,I do not think I will bother to answer the question.

Mr Charles Jones - Dingo!

Mr E G Whitlam (WERRIWA, NEW SOUTH WALES) -That was the day's best answer.

Mr SPEAKER -Order! The Leader of the Opposition will remain silent. There was a call of a very bad word. I think I know where it came from, but I cannot be certain.

Mr Charles Jones - It was the call of an Australian dog and that is what the Treasurer is.

Mr SPEAKER -Order! The honourable member for Newcastle will withdraw that remark.

Mr Charles Jones - I withdraw.

Mr SPEAKER -I warn the honourable gentleman that if he persists in calling out such words and using offensive terms to honourable members, and then withdrawing later, only for the purpose of getting in the point he wants, he is misusing the forms of the House and I shall have to deal with him.

Mr Charles Jones - Mr Speaker,I raise a point of order. What is unparliamentary about calling the Treasurer a dingo?

Mr SPEAKER -The House will come to order.

Mr Charles Jones - Mr Speaker,you know as well as I do -

Mr SPEAKER -Order! The honourable gentleman will resume his seat.

Mr Charles Jones - . . . that it is a well known Australian term used when someone does not have the courage to answer or to deal with a matter.

Mr SPEAKER -I ask the honourable member for Newcastle to withdraw and apologise.

Mr Charles Jones - I withdrew and I rose to a point of order.

Mr SPEAKER -The honourable member repeated the word. I ask him to withdraw again.

Mr Charles Jones - I withdraw again but I ask you to answer -

Mr SPEAKER -I name the honourable member for Newcastle.

Motion (by Mr Sinclair) proposed:

That the honourable member for Newcastle be suspended from the service of the House.

Mr SPEAKER -The question is that the motion be agreed to.

Mr Bryant - Mr Speaker,is it possible to speak to that motion?

Mr SPEAKER -No, it is not.

Question put.

A division having been called for and the bells being rung-

Mr E G Whitlam (WERRIWA, NEW SOUTH WALES) -Mr Speaker-

Mr SPEAKER -Does the Leader of the Opposition wish to take a point of order?

Mr E G Whitlam (WERRIWA, NEW SOUTH WALES) - I take a point of order, Mr Speaker. The honourable member for Newcastle has hitherto had an unblemished record as a member of this House for 18 years this month. In such a period there have been very few members who have not been suspended. The honourable member for Newcastle never has been. In those circumstances, and particularly as his offence on this occasion took place while he was taking a point of order, I suggest that the vote might be called off or that the honourable member might be given an additional opportunity to apologise.

Mr SPEAKER -I am prepared to request the mover of the motion to withdraw it, but this is the second time that I have had to deal specifically with the honourable member for Newcastle. The honourable gentleman seems determined to make his point regardless of the rules of the House or the wish of the Speaker. If he does wish to make an apology and to give an undertaking that he will obey the rules of the Chair and the Standing Orders, then I am prepared to intercede with the Leader of the House. But unless there is an absolute apology, an absolute undertaking to obey the Standing Orders, the matter will have to proceed. Is the honourable member for Newcastle prepared to give an undertaking in those terms?

Mr Charles Jones - In view of the point of view my Leader has put forward- although I would just correct one point and say that I have once been suspended -

Mr SPEAKER -Order! The honourable gentleman will correct nothing.

Mr Charles Jones - I will not tell you what it was for, Mr Speaker.

Mr SPEAKER -Order! The division will proceed.

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