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Wednesday, 17 November 1976

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER -At that stage there was no motion concerning the statement before the Chair and I was not quite sure whether the statement was to be incorporated in a motion. The only question before the Chair at that stage concerned the second reading of this Bill, which is the motion that is now to be discussed.

Mr Les Johnson (HUGHES, NEW SOUTH WALES) - I seek clarification of what you have said, Mr Deputy Speaker. Is the question before the House the motion for the second reading of this Bill or these Bills?

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER - Although the debate is a cognate debate and honourable members can cover the subject matter of all the Bills, the actual question that is put is that one Bill be now read a second time. A separate question will be put for each of the other Bills at the end of the cognate debate. The main thing with a cognate debate is that it allows honourable members to mention matters covered by other Bills while they are discussing a particular Bill. A separate question is then put on each of the other Bills.

Mr Viner - Mr Deputy Speaker,I seek leave to have the statement I have just delivered incorporated in the cognate debate.

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER -Is leave granted?

Mr Les Johnson (HUGHES, NEW SOUTH WALES) - Mr Dep'uty Speaker,I would like clarification of what is intended. The Minister for Aboriginal Affairs has proposed that the statement he has made be incorporated in the cognate debate. In any event, it is to be recorded in Hansard. What additional quality will emerge from the proposal that the Minister has made other than the fact that it is going to be a part of the debate in the sense that it will be recorded in Hansard.

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER -In the strict sense, the Minister's moving that the subject matter of his statement be incorporated in the cognate debate will mean that honourable members speaking in this debate can mention the subject matter referred to by the Minister. Without his doing that, in the strict sense the subject matter of the Minister's statement is not before the House and therefore, again in the strict sense, according to the Standing Orders should not be mentioned. If it is accepted by the House that it should be included in the cognate debate it will mean that all the subject matter mentioned by the Minister will be then open for debate by any honourable member speaking in this cognate debate. Leave is granted. The statement of the Minister will be incorporated in the cognate debate. I suggest that I should again call the honourable member for Hughes and that his speaking time should commence as from this point. The question is: That this Bill be now read a second time '.

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