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Thursday, 11 October 1973
Page: 1952


Mr ENDERBY (Australian Capital Territory) (Minister for Secondary Industry, Minister for Supply and Minister for the Northern Territory) - A short time ago it was unfortunate that following an outburst by the honourable member for Mackellar (Mr Wentworth) he was suspended from the House. The incident that led to his being suspended involved his incorporating a table in Hansard. The honourable member had consulted me on the document and as a matter of courtesy we gave him leave to have it incorporated in Hansard. The interpretation he chose to place on the document was that some statements which the Prime Minister made yesterday are not true. I ask for leave - I understand it is to be granted - to have incorporated in Hansard another set of figures in my possession together with some notes which accompany that set of figures which put a completely different picture on the figures given by the honourable member for Mackellar. The 2 sets of figures may be studied side by side and people can then make their own decision as to which are the correct figures.

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Bruny)Order!Is leave granted?


Mr Ian Robinson (COWPER, NEW SOUTH WALES) - I seek leave to make a short statement on this matter.


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER -Is leave granted to the Minister?


Mr ENDERBY - Two minutes.


Mr Ian Robinson (COWPER, NEW SOUTH WALES) - Two minutest This is an important matter. This is a great issue.


Mr Daly - I rise on a point of order. The honourable member for Cowper may speak in the ordinary course of events.


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER -Order! The question before the Chair is whether leave is or is not granted for the material to be incorporated in Hansard. That question is not open to debate.


Mr Ian Robinson (COWPER, NEW SOUTH WALES) - I want to seek a specific qualification. I agree to the tabling provided that I can say a word afterwards.


Mr ENDERBY - No.


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER - Order! The honourable member may rise to speak after the Minister has concluded.


Mr ENDERBY - Be fair.


Mr Ian Robinson (COWPER, NEW SOUTH WALES) - I agree to the tabling but I ask for leave to make a short statement.


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER - Order! Is leave granted?


Mr Daly - To the honourable member for Cowper, no.


Mr Ian Robinson (COWPER, NEW SOUTH WALES) - I agree to leave to incorporate the material.


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER - Order! There being no objection, leave is granted. (The document read as follows)-

 

Industry Exclusions

(a)   Public Administration and Defence- Most of the goods and services provided by this sector are not sold. For national accounting purposes, the whole of the gross product is valued in terms of wages and salaries paid. No return is imputed for the services of capital. Since employment in the Government administration sector has been rising at a faster rate than in other industries, it is claimed labour's share would show an upward bias if this section were included in the measurement.

(b)   Community and Business Services - The same argument applies to this sector since it is dominated by certain Government wage bills - such as law, order and public safety, health and hospitals and education.

(c)   Ownership of Dwellings - A similar type of argument is applied to this sector where by, definition there is no return to labour i.e. no wages and salaries bill at all.

(d)   Finance and Property- This sector includes from 1959-60 figures onwards an imputed bank service charge which represents approximately 40 per cent of the product of this sector. No meaningful comparison therefore is possible with earlier years. Secondly, arbitrary or imputed figures should not be included.

Weighting for Differential Growth Rates of Industry Sectors

Changes in labour's share over the economy as a whole can be affected not only by changes in labour's share in particular industries but also by changes in the relative importance of the various industries in the economy. For example if high capital intensive industries were growing at a more rapid rate than low capital intensive industries then even if the income share remained constant in each individual industry, the overall share of labour would tend to fall. It is necessary in examining the trend in labour's share to remove the effects arising from differential growth rates of industries included in gross domestic product. Thus industries have been weighted according to their contribution to total production in 1958-59. Each industry represents the same proportion of total production for every preceding and succeeding year as existed in 1958-59, so the industrial structure remains constant throughout the entire period.

Adjusting for Changes in Occupational Status The figures have been adjusted to allow for changes in the occupational status of the employed workforce. If there was, for example, a large number of self-employed persons who decided to become wage and salary earners, the proportion of wage and salary earners in the employed work force would rise, hence wage and salary earners share of national income would rise even though the average wage had not changed. Hence to overcome this problem we have divided the share of G.D.P. (Gross Domestic Product) going to wage and salary earners

 


Mr ENDERBY - I am indebted to my friend.


Mr Ian Robinson (COWPER, NEW SOUTH WALES) - I wish to raise the point that the figures tabled by-


Mr ENDERBY - I take a point of order. I sought leave to table those figures. I understood that leave was given for that purpose.


Mr Ian Robinson (COWPER, NEW SOUTH WALES) - Leave has been given.


Mr ENDERBY - I am in continuation. I wish to continue my remarks.







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