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Tuesday, 18 September 1973
Page: 1205


Mr GRASSBY (Riverina) (Minister for Immigration) - in reply - The honourable member for Wannon (Mr Malcolm Fraser) -


Mr Giles - Mr Deputy Speaker,I rise on a point of order. The honourable member for Forrest was on his feet before the Minister rose to close the debate.


Mr GRASSBY - No he was not.


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER - Order! I did not see the honourable member for Forrest rise. If he did so, he is entitled to be called.

MrDrummond - I was on my feet.


Mr Grassby - Mr Deputy Speaker, I draw your attention to the fact that there have been 5 Opposition speakers and only 2 Government speakers. Under the rules and forms of this Parliament it is certain that--


Mr Sinclair - That you can close a debate.


Mr Grassby - I have not finished. Contain yourself. I am taking a point of order. I rose before the honourable member for Forrest. According to the rules and forms of this House it was the turn of a speaker from this side of the chamber. There have been 5 speakers in succession from the Opposition side of the chamber. I submit that I was called and I should, in fact, have the right to speak at this time.


Mr Malcolm Fraser - Mr Deputy Speaker, speaking to the point of order--


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER - There is no need for a point of order. The honourable member for Riverina raised a point of order on procedure. I disallow that point of order. The honourable member for Forrest had risen and I think it is proper that he should be called.


Mr Scholes - Mr Deputy Speaker, I take the point of order that I was also on my feet and the call is due to this side of the House.


Mr Malcolm Fraser - 'Speaking to the point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker, there is a deliberate attempt by the Minister and the Government to prevent the Opposition speaking to this Bill.


Mr Grassby - There have been 5 speakers from the Opposition and 2 from the Government side. This is unprecedented. I suggest in justice--


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER - Order! I ask the honourable member for Wannon and the Minister to resume their seats. I did not call the honourable member for Corio because I did not see him. I call the honourable member for Forrest and he will be heard.

MrDRUMMOND (Forrest) (9.49) - Mr Deputy Speaker--

Motion (by Mr Nicholls) proposed:

That the question be now put.


Mr Sinclair - 'Jackboots again.


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER - I ask the honourable member to resume his seat. The question is:

That the question be now put.

The House will divide. (The bells being rung)


Mr Malcolm Fraser - Mr Deputy Speaker,I object to the Minister for Immigration quite falsely saying into the microphone that I have broken my word. This is utterly untrue. He was saying this to the Acting Leader of the House. He has no right to do this under the privilege of this Parliament in a way whereby he hopes it will go out over the air unheard and unnoticed by honourable members. This is typical of the things we have come to expect from the Minister.


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER - Order! The words were not heard by the Chair.


Mr Malcolm Fraser - They would have been heard over the air and the Chair should notice.


Mr Anthony - I rise to order. I am wondering whether the Government would reconsider this decision. With all due respect, the honourable member for Corio was jumping. I thought he should have had the call because the call should have gone to the Government side of the House. You did not see him, Mr Deputy Speaker. You called the honourable member for Forrest, which was right. I think it is improper that the Government should be gagging one of its own supporters as well as people on this side of the House. Perhaps, having respect for the Parliament, the Government will reconsider the situation.


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER - Order! The Leader of the Country Party will resume his seat.







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