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Wednesday, 27 October 1971
Page: 2582


Mr TURNBULL (Mallee) - I know that the Leader of the House (Mr Swartz) has the responsibility of getting legislation through the House and he has moved this motion today probably with some knowledge that is not at my command. It has been stated that the House may sit until 9th December. Perhaps the Leader of the House has information and wants the House to rise earlier. I do not know, so when the motion is put I will vote for it. However I would suggest to him that, now that the Leader of the Opposition (Mr Whitlam) has spoken of the co-operation of the Opposition in getting Bills through the House and has said that his Party will agree to cognate Bills being debated and their debate being concluded after 11 o'clock, the Leader of the House might consider taking some other action. The Leader of the Opposition has given these assurances. This is the kind of thing we have been seeking ever since I have been a member of this Parliament. I have always been against late sittings but I know also that legislation must be passed through the House by a certain time each year. Some honourable member has interjected and mentioned 3 o'clock in the morning. I have always been against such late sittings whether Labor has been in government or the present coalition has been in government. If members of the Opposition will remain quiet for a few moments-


Mr Foster - We have not said a word; get on with your speech.


Mr TURNBULL - You say too much. I would like to see you moved further away and among Labor Party members at the back of the chamber. Let them put up with you. 1 have been in my seat in this chamber for a long time now and I have heard much abuse and bad language-


Mr Foster - Mr Acting Speaker, I rise on a point of order. The honourable member for Mallee has been in this place too long to carry on in this unparliamentary manner. Although he may be a member of your Party, Sir, he should be requested to withdraw his remark because what he says is a damn lie.

Mr ACTING SPEAKER (Mr Lucock)Order! I would suggest that both the honourable member for Sturt and the honourable member for Mallee restrain themselves on this occasion.


Mr Foster - He can move if he wants to.


Mr ACTING SPEAKER - Order! The honourable member for Sturt will cease interjecting. It was impossible to hear the honourable member for Mallee and it is impossible to determine, in those circumstances, whether what he said is correct. I suggest that the honourable member for Mallee should debate the subject matter before the House.


Mr TURNBULL - Before I continue with what I intended to say, will the Labor Party take up my challenge and shift the honourable member for Sturt and put him among members of the Labor Party at the back of the chamber?


Mr Whitlam - Mr Acting Speaker, I seek leave to make a personal explanation.


Mr ACTING SPEAKER - Does the Leader of the Opposition claim to have been misrepresented?


Mr Whitlam - Slightly, yes.


Mr ACTING SPEAKER - If the Leader of the Opposition claims that he has been misrepresented he should wait until the honourable member for Mallee has finished his speech before seeking leave to make a personal explanation.


Mr Whitlam - I thought the honourable member had finished.


Mr ACTING SPEAKER - No, the honourable member for Mallee is still speaking.


Mr Whitlam - I am sorry. I will wait until he has finished.


Mr TURNBULL - 1 shall continue. I was about to say, when I was so rudely interrupted, not by the Leader of the Opposition but by someone sitting much nearer to me. that as the Leader of the Opposition has given some definite assurances the Leader of the House will perhaps withdraw this motion and move it again if he does not get that co-operation which I hope he will get. If he does get the cooperation, which I hope he will get - I have no reason to think, that he will not get it - things will go smoothly and everybody will be happy. At the commencement of my remarks I said that the Leader of the House has the responsibility of getting legislation through the House. I do not know exactly why he has moved this motion but he must have some definite reason. However, if he is not prepared to adopt my suggestion, I am prepared to support him.


Mr Whitlam - Mr Acting Speaker, I seek leave to give the assurance which the honourable member for Mallee has sought from me.


Mr ACTING SPEAKER -Is leave granted? There being no objection, leave is granted.

Mr WHITLAM(Werriwa- Leader of the Opposition) - I want to assure the Minister that my Party will permit a vote to be taken on any Bills upon which a cognate debate has been commenced before 11 p.m.







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