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Wednesday, 10 June 1970


Order! The honourable member is going beyond the point of order. He cannot make a statement without the leave of the House.

Mr Les Johnson (HUGHES, NEW SOUTH WALES) - Is it possible to ascertain whether the Minister intends to extend to the House the courtesy of making his statement available before we proceed with the debate?

Mr Hayden - I received my statement only half an hour before I spoke. That seems unreasonable.

Dr Forbes - I had not given consideration to the point that was made and in fact the statement was finalised only just before the debate commenced. The proceedings which are now going on relate specifically to the requests. Because of the form in which we had to deal with this I felt it was desirable for the House to know the Government's view on the matter as a whole, which led to my making the statement. We could have left it where it was and dealt with the Government's attitude on the requests but I felt it was a courtesy to the House to take the opportunity to make a statement which I could not have done in the Committee stage of the Bill because of the relevant provisions. It would be impossible for me to meet the honourable gentleman's request to provide a statement before we go on with the debate .on these requests. I will certainly undertake to provide honourable members with a copy of my statement as soon as possible, certainly before we go on with the debate on the amendments. I feel that the Government's attitude would have more relevance to the amendments than it would to these requests.

Mr Hayden - ] think wc should have something more precise. Could not the Minister give an undertaking that he would have these out-

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Drury)Order!The honourable member for Oxley will resume his seat.

Dr Forbes - I have said to the House that T will provide this as quickly as possible, that is. as quickly as the mechanical details of having it duplicated will allow. The honourable gentleman should be prepared to accept that undertaking.

Dr Klugman - T rise to order. Could the statement which the Minister intends circulating be' more detailed? When making his statement the Minister referred, if I remember correctly, to amendment No. 10 as being accepted with certain further amendments. This is meaningless because we do not know what those further amendments are. Can the Minister put the exact proposals into that statement so that we know what will in fact be moved? Otherwise we do not know what our attitude should be.

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Drury)Order!The honourable member is not entitled to proceed beyond the point of order.

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