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Wednesday, 8 December 1965

Mr GILES (Angas) .- Mr. Chairman,I rise to mention only two points. The first is the point that was dealt with originally by the honorable member for Yarra (Dr. J. F. Cairns) and in respect of which he said, if I recall his words, that three rates will apply under this legislation. I agree with the contention that has been put forward. I think it is very difficult to know what a normal rate is and when to apply the provision relating to dumping legislation. I put forward quite seriously as an answer to the honorable member for Newcastle (Mr. Jones) an experience that I had as a member of the Government Members Food and Agriculture Committee on a trip to Weipa recently. We there discovered a situation quite contrary to the contention of the honorable member, who informed us that the establishment of an Australian overseas shipping line would be the solution to various problems concerning freights. We found at Weipa that the freight for the shipment of bauxite to Europe was 35s. a ton. I suppose that this could be regarded as a dumping figure when compared to the rate of 45s. a ton for the carriage of bauxite from Weipa down the Australian coastline to Bell Bay. This is the sort of problem that we face with this legislation.

Mr Kelly - It will not stop that.

Mr GILES - Exactly. I believe that the whole answer is that competitive rates, whether for backloading or not, should apply where possible. The Tariff Board's problem is to know how much it can afford to depreciate a rate in terms of its tariff in order to protect a home industry from imports. This is indeed a problem. I am a little sorry as I sit down that the Minister for Supply (Mr. Fairhall), who is in charge of the measure in this chamber, is not able to explain to me more clearly exactly what is a competitive shipping freight and what is not.

Proposed new clauses agreed to.

Clauses 6 to 8 - by leave - taken together, and agreed to.

Clause 9.

The amendments made by section 3 of this Act do not apply in relation to goods that were entered for home consumption before the commencement of this Act.

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