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Thursday, 8 December 1960


Mr JONES (Newcastle) . - I oppose this clause. It is obvious to me that in the Government's view there are two ways in which to look at the question of retrospectivity. The first is how to apply it to the lower income group - the pensioners and the workers in industry - and the second is how to apply it to the top brass - the judiciary. It is obvious from the smug approach to this question of the honorable members for Barker (Mr. Forbes), Perth (Mr. Chaney), Moreton-


Mr Chaney - 1 rise to order, Mr. Temporary Chairman. If you maintain that the word " hypocrisy " is unparliamentary, 1 maintain that the word " smug " is unparliamentary.


The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN

Order! There is no substance in the point of order.


Mr JONES - It is obvious that every time an honorable member on this side of the chamber makes some remark to which the smug honorable members on the Government side object, they jump to their feet and complain to you, Mr. Temporary Chairman. When the honorable member for Lalor (Mr. Pollard) referred to a point earlier in the debate, we saw how the AttorneyGeneral (Sir Garfield Barwick) dropped the axe and moved that the honorable member be no longer heard.


The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN - Order! The honorable member will direct his remarks to the clause under discussion.


Mr JONES - I am referring to the clause.


The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN

The honorable member is referring to matters that occurred earlier in the debate. We are now in committee, and I ask the honorable member to confine his remarks to the clause under discussion. This clause already has received a good deal of consideration and I am not prepared indefinitely to listen to the same arguments being advanced repeatedly.


Mr JONES - This is the first time that I have spoken in the debate on this bill and I think that I am entitled to express my view on the way things are progressing in this chamber. As I have indicated, this is typical of the smug approach of the Government to the class struggle that is going on. The Government states that we must not make any reference to the top brass and, in particular, to the judiciary. The honorable member for Perth challenged Opposition members to prove that any judge had ever brought down a biased judgment. I can give him some examples if he does not know of any. We have seen-


The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN

Order! The honorable member is not in order in proceeding along those lines. The clause refers merely to the date of operation of this bill, and I ask the honorable member to confine his remarks to that aspect.


Mr Killen - He is smearing the judges.


The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN -

Order! The honorable member for Moreton will remain silent.


Mr JONES - If I am not permitted to reply to some of the statements that other honorable members have made in relation to this clause, why were they permitted to make those statements?


The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN

Order! The honorable member must not canvass the Chair's ruling.


Mr JONES - Very well, I shall not canvass the Chair's ruling. The Government adopts a certain attitude when dealing with the top brass - the judges - but it does not adopt a similar attitude when dealing with the lower income groups. I remember clearly back in 1947-







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