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Wednesday, 7 August 1946

Mr HAYLEN (Parkes) .- The' -explanation offered by the Minister (Mr. Holloway) is fair and reasonable, and -should appeal to ex-servicemen in this chamber. Honorable members opposite have displayed a certain amount of insincerity in connexion with this matter, ft is interesting to find out how they themselves have given expression to the principle of preference to ex-servicemen, -about which they have said so much during this long and tortuous debate. The biblical quotation, " Oh, that mine -adversary had written a book ! ", may be aptly paraphrased to read, " Oh, that mine adversary might be recorded in Hansard !''. On the question of how the principle of preference is applied by "honorable members opposite it may be pertinent tq read a passage which appears in Hansard of the 8th May, 1930. In a statement relating to the question of preference to returned soldiers, made by leave of the House, the then ' honorable member for Ballarat, Mr. McGrath, said, inter aim - ' t wish also to refer to something that con- earns the honorable member for Balaclava (Mr.' White)-

The CHAIRMAN - Order ! I ask "the honorable member to connect his remarks with1 the clause or the amendment.

Mr HAYLEN - My remarks are relevant to the amendment which deals with preference to ex-servicemen.

The CHAIRMAN - The question of preference is not involved either in the -amendment or the clause. The amendment seeks to provide for appointment to each of the committees one representative of an ex-servicemen's organization.

Mr HAYLEN - Mr. McGrathcon- tinued -

Early last year, C. J. White and Sons, hardware merchants, of Post Office-place, Melbourne, advertised for a bookkeeper.

Mr White - I rise to order. I ask whether an attack which was made upon me by a member of this House, and which was. successfully answered by me in 1930, has any relation to the clause .or to the amendment?

The CHAIRMAN - No point of order is involved. The Chair will hear \what the honorable member for Parkes has to say, but I warn him that he must connect his remarks with the clause or with the amendment.

Mr HAYLEN - The passage whichI am quoting has relation to the credibility of an honorable member opposite. For many hours now we have discussed the question of appointments- to the committees, and, in particular, preference to ex-servicemen in such appointments. I contend that I should be allowed to continue.

The CHAIRMAN - Order! The question of preference is not involved.

Mr HAYLEN - The Hansard report continues -

The applications were- narrowed down to two, one a returned soldier and the other a non-soldier . . . The returned soldier applicant for the position possessed the .following qualifications:- A.F.I.A.; A.C.A.A."; F.C.I. : ho also had practical experience of the trade . . . The non-returned mau apparently had similar qualifications; he was doing, or had done,, the commerce course at the uni versity. He was. engaged by the firm -at £5 10s, a week.

Mr White - I ask leave to make a persona] explanation.

The CHAIRMAN - The honorable member is not entitled to make a personal explanation while ' another honorable member is on his feet.

Mr HAYLEN - We have only to go back over the history of the past to see how insincere some honorable members opposite are.

Sitting suspended from 11.58 p.m. to 12.25 a.m. (Thursday).

Thursday, 8 August 1946

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