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Thursday, 18 July 1946

Mr McEWEN (Indi) .- 1 move -

That, in sub-clause (2.), the words "free on rail at the port from which it is normally exported " be left out, with a view to insert in lieu thereof the following words: - "bagged at growers' sidings ".

I shall leave it to my colleagues to explain the policy of the party, which has prompted this amendment. It is related to two purposes. The first is to endeavour to obtain a guaranteed price which is close to the cost of production, one that would be associated with the only production data which exists to-day, namely, the grower's data; and the second, to relate the fixed price, whatever it may be, to the growers' siding rather than to ports. It is our purpose thus to make a step in the direction of decentralization. Australia suffers much from the fact that our sparse population- is clustered along the seaboard, and it is checked by the cost of living from moving inland - the cost of paying freight on what is brought in from the coast, and of bearing freight costs on what is produced inland and sold' at the coast. The price should not be less than 5s. 2d. a bushel bagged at sidings.

The CHAIRMAN - The amendment cannot be accepted because it would increase the appropriation. After the bill was read a second time, the House resolved itself into a Committee of Ways and Means which agreed to an appropriation, and this was afterwards agreed to by the House. The amendment would increase the appropriation by the difference between the price of bagged wheat at sidings and the price f:o.r. at ports. Therefore, it is not in order.

Mr Archie Cameron - I rise to . a point of order. I believe that you have been misinformed, Mr. Chairman. The acceptance of the amendment would not increase the appropriation. As a matter of fact, the message recommending an appropriation included no amount at all. Apart from that, there can be no increase of the appropriation unless there is a variation of the export price of wheat. The amendment could not affect the export trade. The only point involved it where the rail freight is to be imposed - whether on the grower personally, or on the pool. The Government would not be one penny better or worse . V... It is a matter of how the amount of 5s. 2d. a bushel will be divided among the growers. Unless we are able to discuss what the bill shall contain all further argument is futile.

The CHAIRMAN - I have been assured by the officers of the Crown Law Department that the amendment would increase the appropriation by so much a bag. Therefore, it cannot be accepted.

Mr Fadden - I rise to a point of order. The honorable member for Barker-

Mr Falstein - When the Chair has ruled a proposed amendment out of order, is it competent for honorable members to address themselves further to the point?

The CHAIRMAN - Honorable members may not debate the ruling of the Chair. Under Standing Order 228, an honorable member can object to a ruling, and move that it be dissented from. Iri such a case, the standing order provides that the objection shall be stated at once in writing, and shall forthwith be decided by the committee.

Mr McEwen - The Chair having ruled that amendment out of order - and I do not dispute the ruling - I want to know whether it is still competent for members of the committee to discuss the price proposed under the Government's plan - if they may say whether it ought to be higher or lower, and whether it ought to be the price paid at sidings or at ports?

The CHAIRMAN - An honorable member would be in order in discussing the price.

Mr Archie Cameron - If we would be in order in discussing the price, how can you rule out of order an amendment the purpose of which is to fix the price at sidings?

The CHAIRMAN - I have ruled that the amendment is out of order.

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