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Thursday, 24 November 1927


Mr SPEAKER - If I understand the honorable member for Franklin aright, he was drawing certain inferences or deductions from a. statement by the honorable member for Darling. Inferences are not statements. The honorable member for Darling was not justified in using an unparliamentary expression.


Mr Blakeley - You have been misinformed, Mr. Speaker, as to what took place.


Mr SPEAKER - Do I understand the honorable member for Franklin to say that the statement he made in committee was in effect what he has just told the House?


Mr Seabrook - Yes.


Mr SPEAKER -In the circumstances, I ask the honorable member for Darling to withdraw his unparliamentary expression.


Mr Blakeley - If the honorable member for Franklin now states that from something I said he drew certain inferences, and was not declaring that I had said certain things, I accept his withdrawal.


Mr SPEAKER -The honorable member for Franklin has just explained to the House what he intended to convey, if he did not actually express it.


Mr Blakeley - I accept his apology.


Mr SPEAKER - Order ! I ask the honorable member to adopt the proper course. He has accepted the explanation of the honorable member for Franklin, and should have no compunction about withdrawing the expression he applied to him.


Mr Blakeley - The trouble is that the honorable member for Franklin has completely amended his first statement and in doing so has substituted something to which I could not and would not have taken exception:


Mr SPEAKER - Do I understand that in the circumstances the honorable member for Darling has withdrawn the words he used?


Mr Blakeley - Yes.


Mr Seabrook - I have not amended my first statement.


Mr SPEAKER - The honorable member has informed the House of what he intended to convey by his remarks in committee. The honorable member for Darling has said he now withdraws the unparliamentary expression used by him. That should close the incident.


Mr Blakeley - If the honorable member for Franklin repudiates his amended statement I refuse to withdraw my allegation that he deliberately lied.


Mr SPEAKER - The honorable member for Franklin did not repudiate his first statement. He merely said that it was intended to convey what his explanation conveyed.

In committee -

Sitting suspended from 1.5 to1.45 p.m.


Mr SEABROOK - Italians in Australia have to work under Australian conditions, and are paid in accordance with arbitration court awards. An Australian worker, who makes up his mind to work, is a better worker than an Italian; but, unfortunately, many Australians to-day will not work if they can get governments to keep them. Italians give better service for the money they receive than do most Australian workmen. It is true that there is a great deal of unemployment in this country. That state of affairs is largely caused by the trade unions. When unemployment is rife, honorable members of the Opposition, instead of endeavouring to obtain work for the unemployed, abuse the Government for not providing work for them. Honorable members opposite do not desire these men to get work, because if there were no unemployed they would lose their trump card - unemployment.


Mr Fenton - I rise to a point of order. The honorable member for Franklin (Mr. Seabrook) has said that unemployment is the trump card of honorable members on this side. As a member of the Labour party, I deny that that is so. Our efforts are always directed towards creating employment.

The CHAIRMAN (Mr Bayley)That is not a point of order.


Mr Fenton - I take exception to the statement made by the honorable member, and I ask for its withdrawal.







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