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Thursday, 24 November 1927


The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN - The Leader of the Opposition must realize that the principal matter before the Chair is the use of the unparliamentary expression "a deliberate lie." All that is alleged against the honorable member for Franklin is misrepresentation of the views of the honorable member for Darling.


Mr Charlton - I understand that, but there are mitigating circumstances. The honorable member for Franklin should have withdrawn his statement when the honorable member for Darling denied it. Although he repeated the allegation after that denial he has not been called upon to withdraw.

The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN.I have said that I shall ask the honorable member for Franklin to correct his misrepresentation after the honorable member for Darling has put himself in order by withdrawing the term, "a deliberate lie."


Mr Bruce - Our first concern must be to observe the rules of Parliamentary debate, and maintain the high standard of conduct which is expected of a deliberative assembly. The words, " deliberate lie," have been used by one honorable member to another, and repeated under what may be considered by the person using them as serious provocation. Parliamentary usage requires that language of that character shall be withdrawn, and the Temporary Chairman has intimated that, after the honorable member for Darling has put himself in order, he will call for the withdrawal of any misrepresentation of which the honorable member for Franklin has been guilty. I appeal to the honorable member for Darling to obey the order of the Chair.If he is not satisfied with the subsequent attitude of the honorable member for Franklin, he will have an opportunity to ask the Chair and the committee for redress. At this moment there is no course open to the Chair and the committee but to insist upon the withdrawal of an expression which has been ruled out of order.


Mr Blakeley - The honorable member for Franklin deliberately repeated his statement after I had complained that he was misrepresenting me. Apparently the only way to bring him to a sense of decency is to use language which is unparliamentary. Until the honorable member withdraws his mis-statement, I refuse to withdraw the words I applied to him.

The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN.If the honorable member for Darling will not obey the ruling of the Chair, I must report this disorder to Mr. Speaker.


Mr Bruce - I again appeal to the honorable member for Darling. All that is asked of him is that he shall withdraw an expression which is unparliamentary. Subsequently, if the honorable member has just cause for complaint against the honorable member for Franklin, the latter will, I am sure, do what is right and proper. The authority of the Chairman must be maintained, and I ask the honorable member for Darling to put himself in order by withdrawing the words to which the Chairman has taken exception.


Mr Blakeley - Let the honorable member for Franklin apologize first.

The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN.There is no course open to me but to leave the Chair, and report this disorder to Mr. Speaker.

In the House -

The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN.I have to report, Mr. Speaker, that disorder has arisen in committee: The honorable member for Franklin made certain statements which provoked the honorable member for. Darling to accuse him of misrepresentation, amounting to a deliberate lie. The honorable member for Franklin repeated his statement after it had been denied by the honorable member for Darling. As both honorable members have refused to withdraw, I thought it my duty to report the matter to you.







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