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Wednesday, 8 September 1920

Mr TUDOR (Yarra) .- I intend to support the amendment, for I am most anxious that the public servants should have the right to go to either Tribunal, just as I have always held that organizations in Victoria should be permitted to go to a Wages Board or the Court, whichever they desire.

Yesterday, on the second reading, I drew attention to the position of two sets of employees who are under the control of the Commonwealth at the present time. The men employed on the transcontinental railway have recently obtained an award from the Arbitration Court. I fancy their case was heard by Mr. Justice Starke, under the Conciliation and Arbitration Act, and not under the Arbitration (Public Service) Act.

Mr Richard Foster - They were under the Railways Act. When that measure was passed here, a special clause was put in.

Mr Groom - We save them the right in that Act to go to the Court.

Mr TUDOR - Will this Bill take away that right from the Railway Service? I remember that the honorable member for Batman (Mr. Brennan) and myself, with the late Mr. Frank Hyett, then secretary of the Victorian Railways Union, induced the Minister to insert a clause giving them the right to go to arbitration.

Mr Richard Foster - Mr. Watt introduced that clause. I opposed it.

Mr TUDOR - I am not surprised at that. T am anxious to know whether thatlaw will still stand. I hope the Minister (Mr. Groom) will let me know if the clause, which is quite wide enough to embrace these employees - although I do not think they will take advantage of this Bill - will override the special section that we put into the Railways Act. I shall be glad, also, if he will tell me how it will affect those in the employ of the Commonwealth line of steamers who are employed in the office. I read correspondence yesterday from the Department to a temporary clerical employee. First of all they said that he could obtain no advantage ' from the award for temporary employees in the Clerical Division of the Service, and then they told him he could obtain no advantage from the permanent employees' award. Will those employed by the Commonwealth line of steamers come under this Bill or not? We have a right to put them somewhere.

Mr Richard Foster - And also the employees of the woollen and harness factories.

Mr TUDOR - T shall be glad if the Minister will inform the Committee whether the employees of the Woollen Factory, the Harness Factory, the Cordite Factory, the Small Anns Factory, the Commonwealth CI "Hh in

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