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Thursday, 19 August 1920


The CHAIRMAN - It would be too late to do that now. Notice of a motion of dissent must he given at the time the ruling is made.


Mr PARKER MOLONEY (HUME, NEW SOUTH WALES) - Then, on a point of order-


The CHAIRMAN - There can be no point of order now.


Sir JOSEPH COOK (PARRAMATTA, NEW SOUTH WALES) (Treasurer) - The honorable member wants to be put out, but we will not put 'him out.


Mr PARKER MOLONEY (HUME, NEW SOUTH WALES) - I want to understand the Chairman's ruling. Surely he is not going to be stubborn in his attitude to the desires of honorable members when asked about a ruling.


The CHAIRMAN - I have twice informed the honorable member that the matter has been dealt with, and I believe that it is within his own knowledge that it has been dealt with. Had he desired to dissent from my ruling, he should have done so at the time it was given.


Mr PARKER MOLONEY (HUME, NEW SOUTH WALES) - Then I will address myself to the amendment of the honorable member for Dalley (Mr. Mahony). The honorable member for Indi made a certain statement regarding the attitude of honorable members on this side. All I have to say to him-


Mr Ryan - If he said it outside !


Mr PARKER MOLONEY (HUME, NEW SOUTH WALES) - I do not think that he is prepared to follow the honorable member for Calare (Mr. Lavelle), and say it to him outside.


The CHAIRMAN - The honorable member must not continue these remarks.


Mr PARKER MOLONEY (HUME, NEW SOUTH WALES) - I have yet to learn that the honorable member for Indi entered this chamber with any reputation for the truth.


The CHAIRMAN - If the honorable member does not o'bey the Chair, I shall order him to discontinue his speech.


Mr PARKER MOLONEY (HUME, NEW SOUTH WALES) - I would not be surprised at anything.; but I am' not going to give you the opportunity until I have 'had any say. I believe you would. The proposed new clause commends itself to me ; and I say it with an amount of truthfulness which is unknown to the honorable member for Indi.


The CHAIRMAN - That remark . is disorderly, and I ask the honorable member to withdraw it.


Mr PARKER MOLONEY (HUME, NEW SOUTH WALES) - I withdraw it. I do what he was not man enough to do.


The CHAIRMAN - If the honorable member will not obey the Chair, he must take the consequences. '


Mr PARKER MOLONEY (HUME, NEW SOUTH WALES) - I with-, draw what I said. I wish to set a good example to the honorable member for Indi.


The CHAIRMAN - I hope that the honorable member will continue to set a good example.


Mr PARKER MOLONEY (HUME, NEW SOUTH WALES) - I hope that we shall all do so; and that the Chair will set a good example to every one else. I cannot see how any ohe can object to the amendment. The honorable member for Indi has said that the whole of the primary producers of Australia have had an opportunity of ascertaining what is in the agreement, but I have not heard of one in my electorate who knows anything about it.


Dr EARLE PAGE (COWPER, NEW SOUTH WALES) - Are there any dairy farmers in your electorate?


Mr PARKER MOLONEY (HUME, NEW SOUTH WALES) - There are several. I do not think that they are represented On the Pool. The honorable member for Gwydir (Mr. Cunningham) read 'a letter from a representative dairy farmer in his electorate who said that he had never heard of the Pool. The facts show that what the honorable member for Indi has said is absolutely without foundation, and the honorable member's statement was characteristic of him.


The CHAIRMAN - That remark is personally offensive, as the honorable member knows.


Mr ROBERT COOK (INDI, VICTORIA) - I ask that it be withdrawn.


The CHAIRMAN - The honorable member will withdraw it.


Mr PARKER MOLONEY (HUME, NEW SOUTH WALES) - Again I set the honorable member for Indi a good example. When he has been long enough here, he may -acquire some man.ners; at present he is devoid of them. I deny Ids 'statement that the contents of the agreement are known to the primary producers at large. Even if that were so, he would not be justified in voting against the proposed new clause. The electors of Indi will have to be told that he has slipped to a very great extent since he entered Parliament. If everything that he said were true, it would not afford him the excuse for which he is seeking to vote against the proposed new clause. Those associated with . him were loud in their clamour for the representation of the primary producers on the Wheat and Wool Pools. Yet now that the honorable member for Dalley (Mr. Mahony) has moved for the insertion of a new clause, which will give the dairy farmers full representation on the Dairy Produce Pool, this gentleman, who says that he was sent here to represent the primary producers, quibbles, and makes every excuse for voting against it. Those who understand the requirements of the primary producers cannot cavil at the clause, which I trust will be carried. The rank and file of the dairy farmers, through no fault of their own, know no more about this agreement than did the small wool-growers about the contract for the sale of our wool, for which the Prime Minister (Mr. Hughes) tried to shift his responsibility on to the shoulders of the ex-Treasurer (Mr. Watt).


The CHAIRMAN - The honorable member is going beyond the clause.


Mr PARKER MOLONEY (HUME, NEW SOUTH WALES) - Is that out of order ? I can only account for your ruling by the lateness of the hour.


The CHAIRMAN - I ask the honorable gentleman to withdraw that remark, and to apologize to the Committee for having made it.


Mr PARKER MOLONEY (HUME, NEW SOUTH WALES) - I would not think it any wonder, because of the lateness of the hour, that any of us might be affected. I withdraw the remark so far as it applies to every one, including the Chairman. Those on this side have always stood for giving full and ample representation to the primary producers on all Pools dealing with the disposal of their produce. I hone that every honorable memberwill avail himself of the opportunity to discuss the amendment. I do not object to the action of the honorable member for Indi in discussing it; I only take exception to his insulting remark. I do not take exception to his showing where he really stands. The honorable member for West Sydney (Mr. Ryan) has just mentioned; by way ofinterjection - and

I quite agree with him - that this Bill affords an example of how the Government pools the primary producers. It is in order to see that the primary producer shall not be pooled that honorable members on this side are seeking the insertion of a clause which will provide some measure of protection to dairy farmers. Of course, it -is too much to expect the votes of honorable members of the so-called Country party; but, personally, I prefer their seats to their votes.







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