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Wednesday, 28 July 1920

Mr TUDOR (Yarra) .- Unfortunately, I was absent from the chamber when the Minister for Trade and Customs (Mr. Greene) replied to the honorable member for Grampians (Mr. Jowett), who seeks by his amendment to restore the Bill practically to the form in which it passed the other branch of the Legislature.

Mr GREENE (RICHMOND, NEW SOUTH WALES) (Minister for Trade and Customs) - But not to exactly the same terms.

Mr TUDOR - That is so. But it must not be forgotten that when the measure was before the Senate it contained provision for the establishment of an advisory council in each State. Though the creation of the Institute of Science and Industry has never been definitely authorized, there has been established in each State at least one advisory council and the honorable member for Grampians, I understand, wishes to restore that provision in this Bill.

Mr Jowett - To some extent.

Mr Bowden - He desires to make the advisory councils a part of the Institute.

Mr TUDOR - I cannot agree with him. I should like to know why the Government have discarded the State advisory councils for which the Bill contained provision when it was before us upon two or three previons occasions.

Mr GREENE (RICHMOND, NEW SOUTH WALES) (Minister for Trade and Customs) - The position roughly, is that the work upon which these scientific men will be required to co-operate, boils down to specific subjects, and we believe that it is better to make provision in the Bill which will enable us to call upon them to co-operate in respect of particular problems than to establish a general council. But provision is made for the establishment of a general council in regard to the central area.

Mr TUDOR - I think that the view taken by the Government is the correct one, because only specialists and highlytrained men will undertake independent investigations, and these men may be hampered rather than helped by the creation of State advisory councils. In my judgment, the amendment of the honorable member for Grampians (Mr. Jowett) is not calculated to assist the Institute, and I regret, therefore, that I shall be obliged to vote against it.

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