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Wednesday, 21 July 1920


Mr HIGGS - I rise to a point of order. The honorable member for West Sydney (Mr. Ryan) has said that he does not propose to amend his motion. I understood that earlier in the afternoon he obtained leave of the House so to do.


Mr RYAN - If I wished to do so.


Mr Higgs - I understand that you, sir, did not give the ruling which is set forth in the motion now before the House. Which motion is in order?


Mr SPEAKER - With the intention of trying to clarify the original notice of motion certain words were transposed by the officers, and it seems to me that the result is to give a different complexion to the motion. The notice of motion, as printed, makes it appear that I ruled that reference to the inquiry before Sir Robert Garran in the Father Jerger case, and the conduct of the Executive in connexion with that inquiry, were not proper subjects for discussion in Parliament. I did not say that, although I did say that, while the case was sub judice, it could not with propriety be discussed in Parliament. The motion, as handed in, is really an. expression of the honorable member's opinion upon my ruling. '


Mr Ryan - But my notice of motion was all right, was it not?


Mr SPEAKER - Yes, except that it did not state what the ruling was. It read -

That the Speaker's ruling he disagreed with on the ground that reference to the inquiry before Sir Robert Garran in the Father Jerger case, and to the conduct of the Executive in connexion with that inquiry, are proper subjects for discussion in Parliament.

That is the honorable member's expression of opinion upon my ruling, and not my ruling, which was that it was not in order to discuss matters which were sub judice. With the approval of the House and the consent of the honorable member for West Sydney, I shall put the motion in the form of the original notice.

Question - That the motion (as amended) be agreed to - put. The House divided-.







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