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Tuesday, 11 May 1920

Mr GREGORY - Exploration and investigation for oil should come first.

Mr TUDOR - Of course; are these people the only experts in the world? It has been rumoured throughout Australia, by the way, that every prospect for oil, so soon as it has been considered good, has been destroyed through the actions of certain interested persons. With respect to the extract which I quoted from the Age just now, I stated that I found myself in opposition to its sentiment. Here is another quotation from the leading article in that newspaper -

The Bill presented to Parliament refers almost exclusively to the supply and refining of crude oil imported to Australia. It does not bind the company to conduct explorations or to expend a certain amount of capital to that end within a given time.

There is not one clause in this agreement which binds the company to spend one penny to explore or develop oil fields in Papua or elsewhere.

Mr Hughes - Certainly. That has nothing to do with it. They are employed by us to explore, and the oil will belong to us, and not to them.

Mr TUDOR - And we pay them for doing it?

Mr Hughes - We Day them as you are paid here.

Mr TUDOR - Yes; and I consider myself very much under-paid at times.

Mr Hughes - You are paid what you are worth. If not, say so, and I will hear what you have to say.

Mr TUDOR - The article also says-

Obviously the Government cannot expect Parliament to ratify the agreement now under the notice of the House of Representatives before the exact nature and terms of the Papuan explorations have been defined, or before the obligations of the company, in return for the concessions it demands, have been set down in irrefragable, unmistakable conditions.

Further on it states -

It might possibly suit the company, which has costly developmental work elsewhere, to treat the Papuan prospects in an indifferent, procrastinating way, while secure in the knowledge that it is safe from possible Papuan competition.

Once we hand ourselves over to them there is no need for them to do anything so far as Papua is concerned. They can defy the Government. They can use their own oil. They can charge what they like in freight.

Mr Hughes - No, they cannot.

Mr TUDOR - Yes, they can; they fix the price.

Mr Hughes - No, they do not.

Mr TUDOR - They do, according to the terms of the agreement ; and they fix it two years ahead.

Mr Hughes - I do not mind you speaking at large when you have not the facts, but look at the agreement.

Mr TUDOR - I have looked at it, and I say they can fix their freight at what they like.

Mr Hughes - They cannot.

Mr TUDOR - I shall be pleased if the honorable gentleman will show me the clause in the agreement to prevent them from doing so.

Mr Hughes - It says " current rates." What is wrong with that?

Mr TUDOR - Fixed by the AngloPersian Oil Company.

Mr Hughes - Why do you not go into a shop and fix the price of the clothes you are going to wear, or come into this Parliament and say how much you are to get? It is ridiculous nonsense.

Mr TUDOR - We say as a whole Parliament what we are to get. I object also to the agreement giving us only three directors, and them four. What is the advantage to the Commonwealth of holding a majority of the shares if we are not to have four directors out of the seven? The company will have all the expert knowledge. If we had four directors we should be in a better position, but even then we should not be in as good a .position under the- agreement as I think we are entitled to hold.

Mr Hughes - Why do you not start a refinery of your own.?

Mr TUDOR - Why does not the honorable member do so?

Mr Hughes - If I did, you would find some objection to it.

Mr TUDOR - The honorable member happens to be at the head of the Government, and while he has a majority the Government can do no wrong.

Mr Hughes - You mean the Government can, do no right.

Mr TUDOR - I have never said so. If we go on with the agreement in its present shape, Australia will regret it once, and that will be always. We shall hand control over to the company.

Mr Hughes - How can we hand anything over to them when we have a majority of the shares?

Mr TUDOR - They have a. majority of directors.

Mr Hughes - What has that to do with it? The shareholders can do anything they please to any company they like.

Mr TUDOR - They cannot. The Commonwealth will not have the opportunity of electing the majority of the directors, and the majority of the directors will fix the policy of the company. They can do what they like regarding two things - th© cost of crude oil, which they can fix themselves, and the cost of freight to bring it to Australia. They may do that on the same basis as they fixed the carriage to England. They increased the freight in that case tenfold from prewar rates to the present time. That is what this beneficent company did, so far as Britain was concerned.

Mr Hughes - Great Britain is getting half the profits. Who is getting the whole of the profits of the Standard Oil Company? Is it the American Government or Rockefeller ? Is there no difference between the whole of the people and an individual profiteer ?

Mr TUDOR - Yes, there is a difference. That is why I want the whole of the people to have the benefit of this business, and not to hand it over to the company.

Mr Hughes - Then why don't you make your suggestion ?

Mr TUDOR - My suggestion is to have a further investigation into the matter. The Prime Minister seems very touchy this afternoon about the agreement.

Mr Hughes - Any one would be . touchy. What is the honorable member talking about? Here is a man, supposed to be leading an advanced party, and what he is saying might come out of the mouth of the most Conservative reactionary in the country.

Mr TUDOR - The Prime Minister is getting into very bad company in backing up the Anglo-Persian Oil concern. Let m© read to' him what the Board of Trade Commission said about it. Of course, he does not want to hear that.

Mr Hughes - If it will make you smile, read it.

Mr TUDOR - Certainly; but it will not make the Prime, Minister smile.

Mr Hughes - I do not know that it would make the honorable member smile if he had a cold such as I have.

Mr TUDOR - I am very sorry for the honorable member's health; but because he has a cold, is that any reason why we should be asked to pass this proposal right through without any inquiry ?

Mr Hughes - If I thought it would be a reason, I would have a much worse cold.

Mr TUDOR - Notwithstanding what I feel for the honorable member, I intend to say what I have to say about this iniquitous agreement, which should never have been entered into. Parliament has a right to ask that further investigation be made before we agree to it.

Mr Hughes - The real trouble is that you cannot find anything wrong with the agreement.

Mr TUDOR - The honorable member may judge that after I have finished. He telle me that the British Government holds half the Anglo-Persian shares.

Mr Hughes - No; I said they had a majority of votes.

Mr TUDOR - If they have a controlling interest, they must have a majority of the votes. This is what the Board of Trade Petrol Commission say -

We feel strongly -that when the AngloPersian Company (in which His Majesty's Government hold a controlling interest) is free to market its own production, steps should bo taken by His Majesty's Government to insure that the products are sold at a reasonable figure in this country, without reference to the excessive prices ruling in other fields. We attach great importance to this point, as we are of opinion that, when the existing contracts, by which the Anglo-Persian Oil Company are bound, expire in 1922, it will be in the power of His Majesty's Government to give substantial protection to British users of petrol, and thereby to confer substantial benefits on the whole community of this country, to whom the cost of all commodities must be enhanced by any rise in the cost of petrol. In our opinion, it is far more important that the Government should secure for British users of petrol a reasonable price than that it should participate, as a shareholder in the company, in excessive profits made at the expense of the British public.

Mr Hughes - Very sound.

Mr TUDOR - We are asked to hand over Australia to this Anglo-Persian Company-

Mr Hughes - We are asked to do nothing of the sort. The honorable member has said that several times, but that circumstance does not make his statement any truer.

Mr TUDOR - If we get 200,000 tons of crude oil annually from this company it will mean that we shall get 72,000 tons of fuel oil, 40,000 tons of benzine, and 33,000 tons of kerosene.

Mr Hughes - The commodities mentioned other than fuel oil will be sufficient to supply only one-half of our requirements. Therefore, the enterprise will not be a monopoly.

Mr TUDOR - So far as fuel oil is concerned, 72,000 tons annually represents 50 per cent, more than we now use.

Mr Hughes - But we require that quantity for our Navy.

Mr TUDOR - We have no right to hand over to the Anglo-Persian Company half the profits accruing from this enterprise, and to allow them to run it just as they choose. It is for this reason that I intend to move that the Bill and the agreement under it be referred for consideration to a Select Committee. I ask the Prime Minister if it is .possible for honorable members to see the agreement which has been entered into between the British Government and the Commonwealth Government in regard to prospecting for oil in Papua, and in respect of which we shall have to pay a sum of £50,000?

Mr Hughes - Certainly. It is very simple. It merely provides that the British Government shall contribute £50,000 and the Commonwealth Government an equal amount for the purpose of exploring for oil in New Guinea.

Mr J H Catts - What do they get out of it?

Sir JOSEPH COOK (PARRAMATTA, NEW SOUTH WALES) (Minister for the Navy) - Nothing.

Mr J H Catts - The British Government puts in £50,000 for nothing?

Mr Hughes - You cannot understand that, can you?

Mr TUDOR - When this miserable by-play has ceased I would like to remark that it will be interesting to see the agreement in question. I remember that when speaking upon the sugar agreement the honorable member for Flinders (Mr. Bruce) doubted the wisdom of entering into that agreement for three years, because during that time the whole of the sugar produced in Australia was to be handed over to the Colonial Sugar Refining Company. What does he think of this agreement, which will give a particular company better terms than any other oil company which may he desirous of erecting an oil refinery here? And this agreement will last for fifteen years. If the Standard Oil Company or the Shell Company wish to erect an oil refinery in Australia, will they get as advantageous terms as are being given to the Anglo-Persian Company?

Mr Hughes - No, because they are foreign companies.

Mr TUDOR - Are they?

Mr Hughes - Certainly. '

Mr TUDOR - During the war the British Government had an interest in the Shell Company, and they admitted in a booklet issued by the Shell Company which was circulated amongst honorable members during the last Parliament that the Allied Governments were greatly indebted to that company for the excellent work which it did in connexion with the war. They said that had it not been for the action of the company in shifting its distillery from Rotterdam to Portishead they would not have been able toget the requisite quantity of T.N.T. This distillery was erected in six weeks, and it would usually take six months. The Government added that- the explosives produced by the company at Portishead and Barrow-in-Furness represented 80 per cent, of the explosives used during the war. Yet we are now asked to turn down that company on the ground that it is a foreign company.

Mr Hughes - We do not turn it down at all. We merely give a preference, as we do in our Tariff, to Britain.

Mr TUDOR - Under the proposed agreement we shall absolutely shut out any other competitor with the AngloPersian Company.

Mr Hughes - We shall not. It will supply us with only half the petrol and benzine that we require.

Mr TUDOR - I prefer to make my own . speech in my own- way.

Mr Gregory - Look at paragraph 14a of the agreement.

Mr TUDOR - Quite so. We say that we will penalize any other competitor with this particular company by raising our Tariff against it. If another company desires to erect a refinery here, this Parliament can impose a duty of 5s. per gallon upon all the oil brought to Australia by other companies. Why should we not give them all an equal opportunity to start operations here? The Prime Minister says that the companies I have mentioned are foreign companies. May I direct the attention of honorable members to paragraph 14 of the agreement contained in the schedule to the Bill, which reads -

In order to insure the full success and development of the oil refining industry in Australia, the Commonwealth will, so long as the prices charged by the refinery company for the products of refining are considered by the Commonwealth fair and reasonable -

(a)   exercise or cause to be exercised such statutory and administrative powers as it deems advisable to prevent dumping and unfair competition by importers of refined oil from other countries;

(b)   refund to the refinery company any Customs duties paid by the refinery company uponthe importation into Australia of crude mineral oil purchased from the oil company and refined in Australia by the refinery company; and

(c)   cause to be introduced into the Parliament of the Commonwealth, and supported as a Government measure, a Bill providing for the imposition, of Customs duties on crude mineral oil whenever in its opinion such action is necessary or advisable to prevent unfair competition with the products of crude oil refined in Australia by the refinery company.

If that provision be retained in its present form, I shall not regard myself as being bound by it. I am not going to vote for an oil monopoly unless it bea Government monopoly. It is distinctly unfair to allow the Anglo-Persian Oil Company to charge just whatever prices for oil it may choose.

Mr Hughes - It cannot do that.

Mr TUDOR - It can. When once the agreement has been ratified there will be no escape from it for fifteen years. When Mr. Glynn, was in charge of the Department of Home and Territories, why was not the agreement regarding the exploration of the oil resources of Papua, into which it was then . proposed to enter with another company, ratified?

Mr Hughes - I know nothing of that.

Mr TUDOR - The Prime Minister may have been absent from Australia at the time. But honorable members will recollect that, according to the press, the British Imperial Company, which is the representative of the Shell Company in Australia, made certain representations to the then Minister for Home and Territories, and submitted certain proposals to him. I think it was stated at the time that that company was prepared to undertake all the exploratory work in Papua at its own expense, and that when a company was subsequently formed it was willing to give to the Commonwealth 60 per cent of the shares in it.

Mr Hughes - Does the honorable member mean to say that we should part with the fee-simple of the rights to oil? A monstrous proposal!

Mr TUDOR - I have said nothing of the kind. I am merely asking that honorable members may be informed of the proposals which the representatives of the Shell Company made to the Government at that time. Any honorable member who gives his assent to this agreement without first fully investigating the matter will not be doing justice to the Commonwealth. I believe that there are papers in the Department of Home and Territories dealing with the proposals submitted by the Shell Company to the Government, and we ought to be permitted to see them. We are told by the Prime Minister that Canada had increased her refineries from seven to fourteen - I presume they are privately-owned concerns - but I do not think that any refining has been done in Great Britain.

Mr Hughes - The Anglo-Persian Company recently erected a refinery, I believe, at Swansea.

Mr TUDOR - According- to the figures supplied by the Prime Minister, there is a waste of about 15 per cent, m the treatment of the crude product, as the 200,000 tons of crude oil is expected to produce 40,000 tons of benzine, 33,300 tons of kerosene, and 9,040 tons of lubricating oil, 72,000 tons of fuel oil, 4,500 tons of wax, and 9,000 tons of pitch. In America, according to an article which, I think, appeared in a recent issue of the Saturday Post, it is the practice of a group of independent small companies, or oil borers, to have the refining done by a separate company in proximity to the supply of crude oil, thus eliminating the element of waste. Therefore, it behoves us to be careful in relation to this agreement. I realize the difficulties to be encountered in securing experts to carry on this work independently of the big oil companies. Our ex perience has shown that machines procured from America, although supposed to be admirably suited for the work, were frequently short of certain parts, and other parts which were supposed to last for months, lasted only a few days. In the language of the Assistant Minister for Defence (Sir Granville Ryrie), we found that somebody " had sold us a pup ". The representatives of these big oil companies, it has been said., took good care that nobody would succeed in developing the oil resources of the Commonwealth, or its Territories. Whether this allegation is true or not, I cannot say; but we should know. We should know, also, whether the controlling interest which the British Government at present hold in the Anglo-Persian Company is likely to be limited or permanent.

Mr Hughes - They 'hold the controlling interest as the result of purchase.

Mr TUDOR - Then there is no time limit for this control.

Mr Hughes - They may buy or sell like ordinary shareholders.

Mr TUDOR - And they may cease control. Some interesting information on the oil situation was contained in a cable message to the Melbourne Age and AArgus of yesterday. The paragraph states -

In analyzing .the oil situation in Mesopotamia, the Observer declares that the future efficiency of the Empire depends on oil for vehicles, ships and aviation, yet the Empire produces only 2 per cent, of the world's supplies. The vital need is sane co-operation with other countries for ten years until the Mesopotamian field is developed. Therefore we must have definite alliances with foreign enterprises on reciprocal terms.

The London 'limes of 2nd March, dealing with the report of the Royal Commission on oil supplies, stated that this should be one of the first questions to be submitted for consideration by the League of Nations. The Prime Minister, in the course of his remarks last Thursday, also pointed out that the world supplies were not keeping pace with the rate of consumption, and that it was not right to hand over to two or three rich companies control of a product absolutely necessary for the well-being of the community. The cable continues-^ "As America must become an importing nation," the article proceeds, " our maximum security depends on alliances with the Shell Company and the Royal Butch Corporation, which are associated concerns, and do not depend on any one part of the globe, drawing from the Dutch Bast Indies, Mexico, South America, Roumania and Egypt, while the Venezuelan field will soon begin to operate. Hence the only sane British policy for the next five years is to encourage a Dutch-British alliance, but it is preposterous to suggest that we should co-operate as before with foreign interests, while shutting them out from the use of our fields. The development of Mesopotamia can be best done through an AngloDutch alliance. As direct government exploitation is impossible, the experts saying that private energy can double the output, and as France is entitled to a large share in the oil yield, a satisfactory, sensible settlement might be drawn up associating the AngloPersian Company and the Shell group -with the Dutch, the Allies and France, guaranteeing a maximum of commercial efficiency.

If those who were responsible for the cabling of this information knew that we were dealing with this question, and what we proposed to do, they could not have furnished us with a stronger argument for further information. The cable concludes - " ThS Mesopotamian agreement has been approved by the Petroleum Controller, the Admiralty, the Foreign Office and the Board of Trade. The Empire was never presented with a wiser or fairer bargain, with which the French Government concurs. The only alternative is the throwing of Mesopotamia open to a new scramble for concessions, which would risk the whole of the transport and air services of the Empire."

Incidentally the Observer notes that Mr. Lloyd George paid a tribute to Sir Robert Home in regard to the agreement, expressing the opinion that he was the ablest of all his colleagues.

According to this statement, British opinion is not inclined to shut out a company which has been denounced by the Prime Minister as a foreign concern, and with which he says we ought to have nothing to do. I hope honorable members Will realize that we should not rush into this agreement blindly, because, if it be finalized in its present form, there will be no chance of review for at least fifteen years. I object to the creation of any capitalistic monopoly. What would be said by the shipping companies at present operating on the Australian coast if Commonwealth vessels were placed in the trade and the Government imposed a tax of £5 per head on every ticket issued by competing companies to Inter-State travellers? Such a proposal would be just as fair

Mr Hughes - People do not bring crude oil to Australia for refining.

Mr TUDOR - The Government are preventing them-

Mr Hughes - They have had a hundred years in which to start a refinery.

Mr Blakeley - The Anglo-Persian Company would not come into the business until it had a monopoly.

Mr TUDOR - It would not erect a refinery in Australia :and compete with others on fair terms. Under the present proposal the Government, under the clause in the agreement which I have already quoted, will hand back to the company the total amount of duty which it pays on oil brought into Australia merely 'because they are partners in the business. The Government are penalizing the competitors of the Anglo-Persian Oil Company, and, as a result of this arrangement, they will increase the price of oil to every one in the community. The Prime Minister has stated that the shares that were worth £5 each are now worth £50.

Mr Hughes - I said the figures were £50,000,000, as compared with £5,000,000.

Mr TUDOR - Very well, the shares which cost the British Government £5,000,000 are now worth £50,000,000.

Mr J H Catts - In a period of five yeaTs.

Mr TUDOR - Exactly; and that is another reason why we should know why these shares have become so valuable. There are only two ways in. which we can make money.

Mr Hughes - I am rather interested in this. What are they?

Mr TUDOR - By exploiting the people in charging higher prices, or by compelling their employees to work harder at lower wages. Which of these has the Anglo-Persian Oil Company done? Is there any reason why these shares should be more valuable ? If the shares are worth £50,000,000, what will they be worth now the company has a monopoly of Australian trade?

Mr Hughes - Is the honorable member saying that the investment of £250,000 in an undertaking of this sort would affect the price?

Mr TUDOR - I do not say that for a moment, but it will be a great advantage to the company to have a monopoly in Australia.

Mr Hughes - We should have a monopoly.

Mr TUDOR - But have you? It is merely a question of the Government saying, "Take as much as you can from the people, but you must give me onehalf." That is exactly what is being done under this arrangement. Before we give further consideration to the agreement between the Anglo-Persian Company and the Commonwealth Government we have a right to know the effect of the exploratary and developmental work to be done in Papua and other such territory. As the Age newspaper has correctly stated, the company can merely " sit down." There will be no working conditions such as there are in a mining proposition, and the company need not do any exploratory work at alL

Mr Hughes - They can sit down now.

Mr TUDOR - Of course they can, this agreement places them in a favoured position; but while they hold a monopoly others are prevented from doing work of an exploratory character. The Government of which the Prime Minister and I were members decided that such work should be reserved for the Government. The Prime Minister has stated that the company will go on with exploration work, but experts and technical men will have to be found to carry it out. The company's advisers are being paid by the Commonwealth, and the company will not ' have to spend a single penny.

Mr Hughes - They are looking for oil for us.

Mr TUDOR - One may, perhaps, be permitted to use a sporting term, and say, " They have the oil," and, so far as this proposition is concerned, they certainly have.

Mr Hughes - People have been looking for oil as long as I can remember, and how much oil did they find? It could easily be placed in an inkpot.

Mr TUDOR - When the honorable member for Kalgoorlie (Mr. Mahon) was Minister for External Affairs I remember him having in his room a small bottle supposed to contain oil, but I never ventured to open it--

Mr Hughes - Yes, the fruits of Government enterprise in New Guinea.

Mr TUDOR - How long is it since the Prime Minister has opposed Governments undertaking such work t

Mr Hughes - The Government are doing it.

Mr TUDOR - The Government pay for the exploration work which this company may carry out how and when it likes.

Mr Hughes - It cannot.

Sir JOSEPH COOK (PARRAMATTA, NEW SOUTH WALES) (Minister for the Navy) - That is net in the agreement.

Mr TUDOR - I defy the Prime Minister or the Minister for the Navy (Sir Joseph Cook) to contradict what I am saying, as there is not one word in the agreement concerning exploration. We have to contribute a certain amount, and the experts can please themselves what they do, and how they do it.

Mr Hughes - Does the honorable member know of any really reliable oil experts ?

Mr TUDOR - No.

Mr Hughes - If the honorable member knows of any such persons the Government will be pleased to give them employment.

Mr TUDOR - I do not know of any.

Mr Hughes - r-Neither do I.

Mr TUDOR - I do not" think the Prime Minister does. I am not going to criticise the experts who have visited the field, and who are supposed to know something concerning oil.

We have been told that, in the event of war, our Navy would be in a much better position if supplies were available locally, and if crude oil were obtainable in Papua, it might be an advantage. But if we have to rely on supplies from Persia, oil tanks coming to Australia would be a special target for enemy vessels. Enemy countries would know that our Navy would be helpless without oil, and every effort would be made to prevent supplies reaching Australia. It is not a good agreement, and I consider further investigation necessary. I do not object to the Anglo-Persian Company, or to any other company or person coming here as an ordinary trader and building up a business. We have been told that under the agreement the Anglo-Persian Oil Company is to be allowed to bring in crude oil duty free. Is it to be exempt from income taxation?

Mr Hughes - Certainly not. The Government will get 50 per cent, of the profits under the agreement, and about another 25 per cent, by way of income taxation. We do not get anything from the Standard Oil Company.

Mr TUDOR - We get income tax from the Standard Oil Company just as we get it from other companies trading here.

Mr Hughes - No. . The profit is made in the refining of the oil, and that is done elsewhere by the Standard Oil and other companies.

Mr TUDOR - Perhaps the honor able member for Flinders could say whether the manufacturer or the distributor of an article makes the more' profit.

Mr Hughes - In this case the manufacturer is also the distributor.

Mr TUDOR - There is this point to be considered: Tank steamers bringing oil from Persia or elsewhere would have to return in ballast, whereas the Commonwealth vessels that have been trading with America have taken there our wool, wheat, and other products, and have earned -between £750,000 and £1,000,000 in freights.

Mr Hughes - Is it not a good thing to establish industries in Australia?

Mr TUDOR - It is; and I, perhaps, have done as much as any other member to that end since the Tariff of 1901 was introduced. I am ready to vote for a bounty or a duty for the encouragement of any industry, provided that all persons are given the same opportunity to take advantage of it. Of course, in some specialized lines it would he impossible, or almost so, to excite competition. I doubt whether there would be more than two or three competitors, if as- many, for a bounty for the production here of refined oil, but what .is proposed by the Government is the payment of £250,000 to the Anglo-Persian Oil Company to make the Commonwealth a partner in its business, and the giving of that company an advantage over every, other. I do not think that fair to the people of Australia, and I would object to the proposal, whatever company might be concerned. We have no right to confine to one set of persons a benefit like that which it is proposed to give to the Anglo-Persian Oil Company.

Mr Blakeley - Let the monopoly of Australia be offered by tender, to see what it will fetch ! i

Mr TUDOR - That would be Australia Unlimited. There was an offer made, I believe, for the Northern Territory.

Mr Hughes - Remembering all thatthe honorable member has said against the Standard Oil Company, and listening to what the honorable member is saying now in favour of that company, I think that he is doing pretty well.

Mr TUDOR - I have not said anything in favour of either the Standard Oil Company or the Shell Oil Company.

Mr Hughes - I never heard a better defence of those companies. If the honorable member were to add a word or two on behalf of the Beef Trust, we might all be perfectly happy.

Mr TUDOR - I do not hold a brief for any company; I desire that all may be placed on the same footing. The Commonwealth should not go into a partnership which will give one company an advantage over its competitors. When the first Bonuses for Manufactures Bill was before Parliament, the then Leader of the Labour party, the Honorable J. C. Watson, moved to refer it to a Select Committee. I propose to take in regard to this measure action similar to that taken by Mr. Watson, and I thereforemove -

That all the words after the word "That" be omitted, with a view to inserting in lieu thereof the words "the Bill and the proposed agreement be referred to a Select Committee."

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