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System failed prostituted girl, 12

TONY JONES, PRESENTER: Tasmanian government agencies are under renewed pressure, as more disturbing
details have emerged about a 12-year-old girl who was sold for sex while under state care.

An independent review of the case by the state's Commissioner for Children has found at least three
government agencies had information on the girl's welfare that should have raised the alarm.

Police are now investigating whether the man who pimped the girl was also sexually involved with
her 15-year-old sister.

Simon Frazer reports from Hobart.

SIMON FRAZER, REPORTER: A year after the shocking revelation a 12-year-old girl was sold for sex,
the Tasmanian Government has released an independent report into how it happened.

In September last year it was recommended the girl be removed from a child protection order - on
the same day she was being pimped.

LIN THORP, TASMANIAN MINISTER FOR CHILDREN: This is systemic failure. Police, education and child
protection were all aware that there were issues around this child, and failed to act
appropriately.

SIMON FRAZER: The Commissioner for Children, Paul Mason's original 61-page report has been pared
down to 14 pages deemed suitable for public consumption.

The report found Child Protection became aware of the girl when she was nine and "risks that were
identified were identified very early".

They included: Amphetamine use in her home was overlooked; persistent cannabis use was not regarded
as illicit; and threatening external relationships were overlooked.

The girl's mother and Gary Devine are each serving 10-year jail sentences for selling her.

The report acknowledged police were aware of Devine's past history with other teenage girls. Hobart
detectives are now investigating whether Devine fathered a child with the girl's 15-year-old sister
and are waiting for DNA results.

LIN THORP: There is no system in the known world that will ever be able to say, 'we can guarantee
this will never happen again', that's absolutely failproof. That will never be the case.

That's why it's so important that as Tasmanians in particular we take a community responsibility
here.

SIMON FRAZER: More than half of Paul Mason's recommendations have been partly or totally rejected
by the government.

They include criminalising the buying of sex and a Commission of Inquiry to review a decision not
to prosecute men who slept with the girl.

Mr Mason also wants Tasmania to consider a voluntary system for Centrelink payments to be
quarantined.

He says beyond the prostitution, the girl's circumstances are all too common.

PAUL MASON, TASMANIAN COMMISSIONER FOR CHILDREN: Across Australia there would be tens of thousands
of children living in families who have very low incomes, who have parents with addictive habits -
drugs, alcohol and gambling.

SIMON FRAZER: The State Opposition believes the minister should resign, or be sacked.

WILL HODGMAN, TASMANIAN OPPOSITION LEADER: She is responsible for overseeing a system that works
properly, that provides children at risk with the greatest care of protection possible and she's
failed.

The Government's failed, Government systems failed, the Minister has failed. The responsibility
stops with the Minister and she should resign.

SIMON FRAZER: One person whose job isn't on the line is the child protection worker who dealt with
the case.

She still works with the agency.

PAUL MASON: We can't afford to lose child protection workers in this state, any more than we can
afford to lose foster carers. We need both of them very desperately.

The child protection worker in this case I've spoken to and she is still employed by the
department.

SIMON FRAZER: The minister says she's been advised the girl is now doing well, attending school
with a part-time job, and wants to forget the past and get on with her life.

Simon Frazer, Lateline.

Toxic sludge kills four in Hungary

TONY JONES, PRESENTER: A state of emergency has been declared in three Hungarian counties after a
toxic red tide burst out of an aluminium plant.

The bright caustic sludge has killed at least four people and burned more than 100.

Villages have been evacuated, while waterways and crops have been contaminated and there are fears
the deadly spill will pollute Europe's second largest river, the Danube.

Karen Barlow reports.

(Shovels scrape mud off a concrete floor)

KAREN BARLOW, REPORTER: The clean-up appears an impossible job.

More than a half a million cubic metres of bright red toxic sludge has poured into villages -
marking, burning and shoving away all objects in the liquid's path.

JOZSEF LENGYEL, RESIDENT (translated): People were shouting, 'Beware, look for shelter because the
dam has burst'.

I rushed back to take a look but the water was already coming, so I ran as fast as I could
forwards.

KAREN BARLOW: There's no mistaking the red hydrated iron oxide from the sky - a by-product of
making alumina.

And it is here where the tailings dam at the Ajka alumina plant burst its banks and unleashed its
toxic waste.

UNIDENTIFIED RESIDENT (translated): The garden disappeared. They say one house collapsed. The
fences were destroyed. The side of the garage of my parents' house collapsed.

KAREN BARLOW: At least seven villages have been inundated and it is believed three people are
missing in the strongly caustic sludge.

The mud is also believed to be slightly radioactive and contains lead.

(Old woman on a hospital bed speaks Hungarian)

This woman says she has burn injuries up to her breast. Asked if it hurts, she says 'Yes. Like
burning'.

She points to liquid coming out of her feet.

The dam broke on Monday, midday local time, at a plant owned by the mining company Mal.

The police have inspected the tailings dam and confiscated company documents.

Mal says the dam had been checked and cleared a day before the disaster. The Hungarian prime
minister says this was no natural accident.

HUNGARIAN PRIME MINISTER, VIKTOR ORBAN (translated): I have ordered the Interior Minister to start
an investigation to find out who is responsible for this. We have no information at our disposal.
We do not know of any sign which indicates that this disaster would have natural causes.

KAREN BARLOW: Hungary is no stranger to environmental spills.

In February 2000 cyanide spilled twice from a tailings dam at a part-Australian owned gold mine.

The spill started in Romania but poisoned Hungary's second biggest river, the Tizsa.

(Dead fish slap onto the river bank)

At the time that spill was Hungary's worst environmental disaster.

This new incident is at least seven times bigger and it is still not known whether Europe's second
largest river, the Danube, has been affected.

Karen Barlow Lateline.

France, America move against terror plot

TONY JONES, PRESENTER: French police have arrested 12 people in anti-terrorism raids across the
country.

The arrests follow warnings earlier this week of a terrorist plot to attack a major tourist site in
Europe.

Meanwhile Pakistan's ambassador to the United States says the American military was trying to
disrupt the terror plot by using drone aircraft to launch missile attacks on Al-Qaeda bases.

But that only seems to be adding to anti-American sentiment on the ground.

John Stewart reports.

JOHN STEWART, REPORTER: On the outskirts of the Pakistani city of Quetta, militants set fire to
NATO oil tankers.

It's the fourth attack on NATO vehicles in Pakistan in the past week.

The militants are trying to disrupt NATO's supply route to the war in Afghanistan.

But there's another reason for the attacks.

Taliban gunmen say they are seeking revenge for missile strikes from American drone aircraft on
Al-Qaeda bases in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Pakistani authorities have reported 24 missile attacks from drones in the past month killing more
than 140 people in Pakistan's north western tribal region.

On Monday, an attack from a drone killed eight militants in Pakistan. Five of the dead are reported
to be German nationals of Afghan and Turkish descent.

Pakistani authorities say the dead were part of a plot to attack tourist sites in Europe.

HUSSEIN HAQQANI, PAKISTANS AMBASSADOR TO THE UN: We do not want anybody to panic. There shouldn't
be any panic because European, Pakistani and American intelligence services are working together to
foil these plots. But as a result a lot of people have come on the radar screen that need to be
dealt with.

JOHN STEWART: In Europe there has been an increased and highly visible security presence following
warnings from the US and British governments about a heightened terrorist threat.

(Sirens wail)

Today police in France arrested 12 people and seized guns and ammunition in anti-terrorism raids in
the south of the country.

BRICE HORTEFEUX, FRENCH INTERIOR MINISTER (translated): Several police operations have been
launched this morning in Marseilles and in Bordeaux that led notably to three arrests directly
linked to the fight against terrorism.

JOHN STEWART: Pakistan's ambassador to the United States says that missile strikes from American
drones were stepped up to try and disrupt the anticipated attack in Europe.

HUSSEIN HAQQANI: I think that several people who have been involved in the plot have been targeted.

JOHN STEWART: In New York one would-be terrorist was dealt with in court today.

Faisal Shahzad, a Pakistani-born American citizen, was given a life sentence for trying to set off
a car bomb in Times Square in May.

Shahzad pleaded guilty to terrorism and weapons charges.

But as the sentence was handed down, he told the court: "Brace yourselves because the war with
Muslims has just begun... Consider me the first droplet of the flood that will follow... The defeat
of the US is imminent".

John Stewart, Lateline.

imminent."

Pornland author joins Lateline

TONY JONES, PRESENTER: To tonight's guest.

Gail Dines is a Professor of sociology and women's studies at Wheelock College in Boston. Her
latest book Pornland looks at how porn has changed in the last 60 years.

Today on the Internet it's a multi-billion dollar industry and according to Dines the images you
can see are more brutal and degrading than ever.

She claims easy access to Internet pornography is hijacking our sexuality and poisoning relations
between males and females.

Professor Dines joins us now in Boston.

Thanks for being there.

GAIL DINES, AUTHOR, PORNLAND: Thank you.

TONY JONES: Let's start with your basic premise that Internet porn in particular is hijacking our
sexuality. How and why is that happening?

GAIL DINES: Well, first we have to realise that pornography has changed over the last decade and a
half.

We're no longer talking about pictures from Playboy of a naked woman smiling in a cornfield. What
we are talking about are really brutal, body punishing images that are designed to degrade and
debase women.

And what's happening thanks to the Internet is pornography is now more accessible, it's more
affordable, it's more anonymous, which means more and more men and boys are looking at pornography
and that's impacting the way they think about their own sexuality, the way they think about women
and the way they think about relationships.

TONY JONES: Let's get... Before we go on to talk in detail about the sort of images, the sort of
things people are accessing these days, give us some sense of the scale of the Internet porn
industry if you can because some of the statistics are mind boggling.

GAIL DINES: Well, they say it's about a $96 billion a year industry worldwide. There's over 13,000
porn movies released to the market in the United States of America. They reckon about one in three
web pages contains some pornographic content.

So what you see as pornography is all over the Internet and in fact pornography drove the Internet.
The technology that the pornography industry devised is now mainstream in the industry.

TONY JONES: You talk about this brutal, body punishing pornography. It's sometimes known as Gonzo
porn. What is it? How do you access is it? Is it easy to access?

GAIL DINES: Well if you go on Google and you put "porn" into Google you will get it within 5 to 10
seconds.

What I talk about in my book are only those images that I accessed I would say within ten seconds,
which means that the average 11-year-old - which is the first age of viewing pornography - can get
to those images in 5 seconds.

Gonzo is really the body punishing, hardcore imagery. It dominates the Internet today. It is the
most profitable for the industry and what the industry says is that Gonzo pornography is the
pornography of choice when men are alone.

So really it's swept over. And the reason for that is a lot of soft core pornography today has
migrated into pop culture. So the more you have soft core in pop culture, the more the pornography
industry is forced to go hardcore as a way to distinguish its products.

TONY JONES: When you say hardcore what do you mean? When you talk about debasing images, just
describe the sorts of things that an 11-year-old might access with a couple of clicks of a mouse
through Google.

GAIL DINES: OK, well, first of all what's very popular is choking with a penis where the penis is
put so far down the woman's throat that it activates the gag reflex. In some cases she actually
vomits.

You also see one woman with three men being orally, analy, vaginally penetrated as she's being
sometimes slapped, spit on, as her hair is being pulled and being called names like 'whore, bitch,
slut, cum-dumpster' and other things I can't say on the television.

Those are the kind of images.

You also have this new thing called A2M, which is ass to mouth, which is where they put the penis
into the anus of a woman and then straight into her mouth without washing.

And what you're seeing now from what I've heard from the industry is you're seeing women with fecal
bacteria infections in their mouth thanks to that.

TONY JONES: It seems to me from reading your book that what's happening is that people who are
viewing this are becoming - and you're saying it's largely men, I take it - mostly men and boys as
well from what you're saying.

GAIL DINES: Absolutely.

TONY JONES: ... are becoming so desensitised to the images that they're sort of demanding worse and
worse images - more brutal events to happen in front of them.

GAIL DINES: Well this is what the pornography industry is saying.

In fact Adult Video News, which is the trade journal of the industry, had a story a few years ago
about the directors and how they don't know what to do next to keep these men interested.

Because really in pornography you've done virtually everything you can to the woman's body short of
killing her so they're fast running out of ideas.

Now study after study shows the more men view pornography the more they become desensitised. They
get bored, it becomes banal. They need something higher, more sizzling in order to get them aroused
and what that is about is how much more you can debase the woman's body.

So what you have now is a landscape of pornography that is based on hardcore, debasing images which
men are becoming more desensitised to. And the question is where the pornography industry going to
go now. And I think they're in trouble because they can't think of anything else to do.

TONY JONES: They have already accessed sort of deep psychological racist tendencies, from what
you're saying. There's an awful lot of black men with white women and you have a very interesting
take on that. Tell us about that.

GAIL DINES: Well, remember in the United States of America there's a long and ugly history of
racism against African Americans and when I was looking at these images- and what's interesting is
the adult video news says one in four movies released to the market is what they call "interracial"
which is a black man and a white woman.

And I got thinking 'Why in the United States of America do white men, which is who the audience,
want to see this?' And then it got me thinking about the debasement and if indeed pornography is
about the debasement of women what better way to debase a white woman in the eyes of white men than
to have her penetrated over and over again by that body which is the carrier of all that is
demonised sexually - ie the black male.

So it's one more way to dehumanise and demean her.

TONY JONES: Is it clear where these porn performers are coming from? Because as well as this
grimmer side of it, you're seeing a popularis- They're becoming more popular as well, porn stars.
In particular, one of the richest porn stars in America became a star on the Oprah Winfrey show.

GAIL DINES: That's exactly right. This is really important to talk about Jenna Jameson because
she's really the first ever porn star. And really a porn star is a woman who moves from pornography
to pop culture seamlessly and she's the only woman who really did this.

And now you've got another one called Sasha Grey who's doing this.

But what Jenna Jameson did was basically act as a recruitment tool for the pornography industry.
Because previously, I would say, the vast majority of women who went into pornography had histories
of sexual abuse.

But today what you're seeing is I think more and more working class women who are looking at
minimum wage jobs for the rest of their life, turn on E entertainment, turn on Oprah Winfrey and
they get to see this Jenna Jameson's house, her beautiful clothes, her art collection and this acts
as a way to bring in young women who don't understand what's going to happen to them in pornography
- who might consent but they don't know what they're consenting to.

And they come into the industry and get spat out within a few months and then there's always more
coming in.

So really what's happening is you're seeing a change in the kind of women who are going into the
industry and more and more are going in because they think they can become the next Jenna Jameson.

TONY JONES: How did Oprah Winfrey justify this, this glamorisation of the porn industry? Did she
ask the gruesome questions about what it must have been like to be doing that kind of work for many
years on end?

GAIL DINES: Well, she basically skirted the issue and she was kind of fawning over Jenna Jameson.
And what she did, - which I thought was really, you know, unquestionable about how they used her -
was they went to her house and they showed her private art collection and her cars.

And I thought this was a great way to show that 'Look, this is how women get wealthy in
pornography'. And what she didn't show - what Oprah Winfrey did not bring on her show - was for
every one Jenna Jameson you have thousand and thousands of women who are spat out by this industry
and are poor, barely own the clothes on their back.

That's the real story of pornography that you very rarely see in the media.

TONY JONES: Let's talk more about the industry because you say they are hell bent on creating a
pool of permanent addicts in the same way that the tobacco industry or the alcohol industry have
done that over many, many years. And you're actually saying this is a public health issue now.

GAIL DINES: Absolutely. Well let me give you an example of the addict part, is that in Adult Video
News they ran an article a few years ago called 'The Distracted Consumer' and they were very happy
because they said they reckon that one in five men who go to Internet pornography is an addict and
this of course was good news for the industry.

And what the article then went on to do was to talk about how you can create software that keeps
the addict more addicted on the website. So they were looking at ways to enhance and increase the
addiction.

And it's like any other industry. Pornography is an industry. The tobacco industry, the alcohol
industry - they want addicts because they pay. They're the major consumers of the product.

Now also what you're seeing increasingly as younger and younger boys are getting into this, it's
getting encoded into their sexual DNA and they're looking for more and more pornography. So this is
the serious problem about what's going on.

You know, I never really used to believe in addiction. I used to think it was men's way to not take
responsibility but if you listen to psychologists, if you read what adult video news is saying - I
can't tell you how many emails I get each day from men who tell me just how addicted to pornography
they really are.

TONY JONES: Let's talk about this issue of young boys because you make this shocking and I would
argue highly contestable statement. You say "we're raising a generation of boys who are cruel,
bored and desensitised".

I mean aren't you sort of exaggerating this effect? I mean to start with, it's impossible really to
know how many boys we're talking about, isn't it? You've given this figure of an average of age 11
but no one really knows whether that's true or not.

GAIL DINES: Well, there are studies. I mean studies done across the West to say that something
between sometimes between 65 and 85 per cent of boys by the age of 13 have viewed pornography more
than once.

Now, the thing is we know that images impact on the way we think about the world. If that was not
the case we would not have a multi-billion dollar a year advertising industry.

By virtue of the fact we have advertising we know that these images affect the way you think about
the world, affect your consumer choices, affect who you are in the world.

Now, if advertising can do that why can't pornography? And these images are very powerful. Remember
they send messages to men's brains via the penis which is an incredibly powerful delivery system
and it's very hard to walk away from those images.

So what concerns me - as somebody who has studied media images for over 20 years - is, what does it
mean for a young 11-year-old boy who's got really no history of sex to compare those images to,
what does it mean that this is his first introduction to pornography? And what does it mean that
it's accessible 24 hours a day?

So what I'm saying is this is a social experiment. We have never before brought up a generation of
boys on hardcore pornography and I can tell you that the studies are showing - and the anecdotal
evidence from psychologists is showing - that this is not good news.

It's not good news for the boys because their sexuality is being hijacked and it's certainly not
good news for the women and the girls that they're going to date because they're insisting these
girls and women perform porn sex. And my interviews with young women tell me they feel completely
backed into a corner by these men and boys.

TONY JONES: But even if you're right at the age at which boys are accessing pornography perhaps
once or twice before the age of 13, I think you said there, it isn't not happening in a vacuum, is
it?

Because there are a new generation of parents by the same token who, one would hope, are actually
teaching their boys to treat girls with respect - and vice versa, teaching their girls that they
shouldn't take disrespect from boys?

GAIL DINES: Well one would hope so but I have to tell you - and I lecture to parents groups all
across the country - is most parents I meet do not know what their kids are accessing.

They do not know what pornography is because they're older, they were not brought up with this kind
of image-based Internet culture and they were shocked to see what pornography is.

I can't tell you again how many emails I get from parents who accidentally stumbled across their
teenagers' Internet sites and what they found was hardcore pornography.

So I don't think parents are equipped and you know what's really important here? Parents are not
the only people who brings up a child.

A culture brings up a child and our culture is now toxic and thanks to the pornographers what the
parents have to do is try to keep the culture outside of the house but this is counter-intuitive to
parenting. And I think the culture is making it hard to be a parent. I don't blame parents for
this. I think they're overwhelmed by it.

TONY JONES: What about the young women - and you say this yourself - some of them come to you and
argue they support porn because they see it as a form of female empowerment?

GAIL DINES: I know, this is the most interesting argument and often the pornography they're talking
about - well, mostly - is not the Gonzo pornography because women tend to look at a different type
of pornography ...

TONY JONES: Let me interrupt you there. What type of pornography do women look at typically?

GAIL DINES: Generally what's called feature pornography, which is kind of not as body punishing,
it's got some attempt at a story line, some attempt at mimicking a Hollywood movie. Also there's
some pornography made by some women pornographers which is kind of a bit softer, not as hardcore,
not as brutal, not as in your face.

The studies show - according to the porn industry - that Gonzo is reserved mainly for the men.

So what these women tell me about how it's empowering is, I think, speaks to the success of the
porn industry in hijacking the debate, the discussion about sexuality.

They have argued that to be hot, to be cool, to be part of our sexual revolution you need to
embrace pornography and what I would argue and what feminists argue is that pornography is a
particular type of representation of sex.

It is based on the debasement of women and what we need to do as women and as feminists is to
redefine sexuality in ways that encode it into being more just and more equal and more fair. And I
think to embrace pornography as many women are doing is to basically capitulate to the porn
industry.

TONY JONES: We haven't got a lot of time left. Let me go to what governments can do.

In Australia we've got a government who wants to impose a filter on the internet that acts as a
kind of national censor, blocking sites with material which would be banned, for example, from our
movie screens. Now do you support government interventions like this?

GAIL DINES: Well, let me tell you what I do support.

I think on some level we have to think of the pornography industry as an industry and all over the
West we have come to a decision that industries need to be somewhat regulated by the government.
Because if not, the industries will absolutely, you know, exploit consumers.

So I think there is a place absolutely for the governments to get involved.

What I would prefer to see actually are laws in the civil not the criminal code which empower
people hurt by pornography to sue the pornographers, which means that we go after them financially
which is where it really hurts.

Because if you take some pornographers and you go after them you put them in prison there's going
to be many more who are going to come to take their place.

So what we need to do is go after them financially. I do question how well filtering is going to
work given that kids are so good at using the Internet. Have you met an 11-year-old that can't get
around a filter? So, I do question how good that's going to be.

TONY JONES: And briefly - we haven't got much time left but just briefly on this point. You are
calling for a movement to protest the porning of our culture. Why would that be - why do you think
that would be effective and do you think given the incredible popularity of porn on the Internet,
do you think you would actually have a following?

GAIL DINES: Oh we have. I mean we've already started a group in America called stoppornculture.org,
if anyone wants to go on our website.

We have an incredible amount of people supporting us. We have members all over the country, all
over the world. We have slide shows that people are now giving in universities, giving in churches,
giving in community services.

I have to tell you that people are fed up with the pornography industry, that they are sick and
tired of pornography defining what our sexuality should be and it's about time that people started
to fight back.

This is why we started Stop Porn Culture and I encourage people in Australia also to start an
organisation because nobody said that pornographers have the right to come in and do a stealth
attack on our culture the way they have done.

TONY JONES: Gail Dines, it's always good to meet someone with passionate views. We'll look forward
to speaking to you again some time in the future perhaps in a debate. We thank you very much.

GAIL DINES: Thank you very much.

you very much.

Thank you very much.

Victoria withdraws police corruption book

TONY JONES, PRESENTER: A book making a series of allegations about police corruption in Victoria
has been pulled from the bookshops this afternoon.

The book, written by former criminal lawyer Andrew Fraser, claims the police and the state
Government have had details about corruption for years but failed to act on it.

Mr Fraser, who was once jailed for drug trafficking, has written the book with a former drug squad
detective who has revealed how he became involved in crime and corruption with his fellow officers.

Hamish Fitzsimmons reports.

HAMISH FITZSIMMONS, REPORTER: Andrew Fraser was once the Melbourne gangland's legal counsel of
choice but fell from grace in 2001 when he was convicted of drug trafficking to feed his cocaine
addiction.

ANDREW FRASER, AUTHOR: You know you've got a problem but you keep going.

HAMISH FITZSIMMONS: After his release in 2006 he decided to tell his side of the story, including
his assessment of the state of law enforcement in Victoria in his book Court in the Middle.

His latest work, Snouts in the Trough, is the story of Malcolm Rosenes, a former drug squad
detective who in 2003 was also convicted of drug dealing.

ANDREW FRASER: Even I was amazed at the litany of corruption that Malcolm recounted to me.

HAMISH FITZSIMMONS: This afternoon the state's office of public prosecutions demanded the book be
withdrawn, claiming it breaches suppression orders. The book's publisher complied.

But Andrew Fraser claims the information is in the public domain.

ANDREW FRASER: You look at any of the names mentioned in this book - Google any of them - and you
will get in some cases thousands of hits. And to suggest that I've breached it by writing a book is
absurd.

HAMISH FITZSIMMONS: In the book Mr Fraser alleges police involved in serious corruption remain in
the force and that the state Government, the Police Ethical Standards Department and the Office of
Police Integrity are aware of the situation.

Much of that knowledge was contained in a debriefing document supplied by Malcolm Rosenes.

ANDREW FRASER: It's some thousands of pages - two or three thousand. I've read nearly all of it and
that was given to ethical standards which then went to the OPI and therefore is in the government
domain. And that was in 2001.

HAMISH FITZSIMMONS: And what's been done with it?

ANDREW FRASER: Absolutely nothing.

HAMISH FITZSIMMONS: The book also claims corrupt police habitually planted false evidence to get
convictions, stole and sold drugs, even murdered.

Despite its content, Mr Fraser claims it's not an attack on police.

ANDREW FRASER: I'm not saying all the coppers are corrupt, but what I'm saying is there is an
element which needs to be rooted out and there is a continual refusal by successive governments to
even remotely address the issue.

HAMISH FITZSIMMONS: Andrew Fraser could hardly be described as a supporter of Malcolm Rosenes.
Rosenes led the investigation which saw the lawyer jailed for six years.

ANDREW FRASER: He was the detective sergeant at the drug squad that had the search warrant executed
on my house and to say that his behaviour left a little to be desired would be an understatement.

HAMISH FITZSIMMONS: But Mr Fraser's business partner was contacted by Rosenes to get Andrew Fraser
to write the book, which tells the story of a young policeman's slide into corruption, ending in
the ultimate betrayal of the badge.

ANDREW FRASER: He's worried about what's going on but at the same time he's behaving in a seriously
corrupt manner.

HAMISH FITZSIMMONS: The Victorian Police says it's raised a number of concerns about the book with
its publisher and it now says it's referred the matter to the State's Office of Public Prosecutions
for advice.

Malcolm Rosenes was unavailable for comment. The state Government and the Office of Public
Prosecutions also had no comment.

Hamish Fitzsimmons, Lateline.

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TRANSLATION: When we heard the explosion I went out and explosion I went out and saw two men run
aig way. They were wearing traditional clothes and head Gare and they did not have their faces
covered. Next to the site we found the bag with the remains of a weapon launcher.

No-one has yet claimed spobt for the attack but authorities recently boosted security around
foreign embassies after receiving information suggesting that Al-Qaeda Al-Qaeda was planning an
attack in the country. Games continue in Delhi tonight with one Australian wrestler licking his
wounds after an inappropriate salute in his gold medal bout an Australian cyclist is also a target
for Steve Steve Monaghetti after another salute but the gold rush has continued in the cycling and
at the pool and Peter, we've got to say that Geoff Huegill was on the blocks just a short time ago,
one of the great comeback stories, what happened?

Yes, you remember after Athens he ballooned out, he became the party party boy, he was up to 138
kg, he lost 45 kg to be here. This was his moment just a short time ago on the blocks in the 50
metres butterfly. The champion, the world champion, and down the pool he's in the mild there
driving hard, he looks as though he's going to win but he getting nail on the line but Jason Dunn
ford from Kenya.

There was a thrilling finish to the women's 100 free Alicia Coutts collecting her second gold medal
of the games. And multiple Paralympic champion Matt kaud Cowdrey set a new world record in the 50
free style and Australia continued its mopt yum continued its mopt yum with a 3-prong finish in the
breaststroke. Leisel Jones successful there. Let's look at the cycling w the absence of the top
ranked English cycler, the Australian team dominating the medals. They've won 6 of the 7 gold
medals decided. The timing of the European championships has given us one reason why the English
didn't send their top strength team. It's an Olympic qualification event. qualification event.
England dominated cycling in Beijing but Australia is just swamping the competition and tonight it
was the same in several events and there was a terrific performance by Cameron Meyer, the
22-year-old in the points race.

40 kmed km, he blitzed the field and he is an out and out champion, the 22-year-old from Western
Australia. Megan Dunn from Dubbo the 19-year-old won the women's points race, her her first
Commonwealth gold. There was Anna Meares and her team-mate in the sprint, they too. Carly
McCulloch. There was an error from Shane Perkins and this was in the ride off. His salute salute
which could cause him a little bit of a problem. A little bit moment but on the track here is how
it looks at the main Olympic stadium. It's a bit of a shambles earlier today. They did manage to
fix it up but Shane Shane perkin, that was in the KieronH ewas disqualified in the qualification
and he rode the the minor race and he gave a salute to the crowd when he won that minor race, the
5th to 8th placed ride off and now he's going to have to face Steve Monaghetti.

What sort of salute was it? It wasn't clear looking at those images.

It looked to be one of defiance. He'd probably argue h was just saying there you go, I've done it.
I should have been in the final which was incidentally won by won by a Malaysian competitor.

We've also seen some bad sportsmanship, that cost another Australian competitor a silver medal in
the wrestling. He's just a huge problem for him. He's got to go home now with nothing.

That's right, Hassane Fkiri, a 36-year-old former Olympian, plenty of experience, he showed his
frustration to the judges, disrespect to his opponent now he faces some community service when he
gets home after this gesture to the judges and in in the gold medal bout of the wrestle. Amil Kumar
was his opponent, the 96 g class, he didn't shake his hand either.

You play

either.

You play hard, Australians play hard but we play - once the match is decided we accept the results
and we play fair.

Now that was the crowd at the Greco Roman Look at this terrific bad mitton to being played to a few
family and friends. They need more people there, trying to get some kids along. Fine point,
unfortunately no-one there. Same at the table tennis, very few people in the stands. The women's
hockey, Australia playing, that was pretty ordinary as well. Rohan Bohana he had a sense of humour.

Ladies and gentlemen, can you please be quiet during and before play, thank you.

He asked for the crowd to asked for the crowd to be the women's hockey India scored a goal against
Australia. The Hockeyroos win #2g-1 but that was the biggest crowd we've seen so far at the women's
hockey.

You should find all the misdemeanours in Delhi and sentence people to community service as members
of crowds.

They're trying to get school kids along to just get the atmosphere going a little bit. They had a
good crowd at the swimming tonight.

It's a bit sad overall. That's all from us. If you would like to look back at tonight's interview
with Gail Dines or at our website or follow us on Twitter or Facebook. Goodnight.

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Good evening, and welcome to Lateline Business, I'm Ticky Fullerton. Tonight, it was never popular
with customers, the regulators or even the company's own shareholders, is Rio Tinto about to walk
away from the Pilbara joint venture

companies may in unson decide to say "Look, it's just too hard, we're not going to get approval, so
let's just call it quits now".

For all the talk

quits now".

For all the talk and the platitudes, the figures show women are still excluded from company boards.

Not much has changed in corporate Australia in the last... well, it's close to 10 years now at that
very senior level.

And private funds help turbo charge the development of solar thermal technologies.

The challenge is how do you solar energy after dark and these technologies allow you to store that
thermal energy in a mass molten salt or the like.

With Wall Street close to a 5-month high the All Ords closed more than 1.5%. Rio Tinto denies it's
made any final decision, but the proposed iron ore joint venture with BHP Billiton in the Pilbara
looks increasingly likely to hit the buffers. The plan, the corporate history was hatched last year
when Rio was deep in debt and iron ore prices were way off what they are now. Publicly Rio Tinto
says the venture is still alive, but an extraordinary leak Monday's board meeting suggests they're
about to walk away. Here's Phillip Lasker. Headlines like this did not come as a total surprise to
investors.

I think both companies may in unison decide to say "Look, it's just too hard, we're not going to
get approval, approval, so let's just call it quits now".

A report from extraordinary boardroom leak said Rio is preparing to dump the $120 billion iron ore
joint venture with BHP Billiton in West Australia's Pilbara. It quoted boardroom discussions,
canvassing a strategy for walking away from the joint venture deal that would not anger or
embarrass BHP.

Taken at face value, the reports would indicate an extraordinary breach of boardroom
confidentiality and I find that astonishing in a company as professional as Rio.

In statement, Rio Tinto said: The ultimate customer, steel mills in China, Japan and Europe have
lobbied regulators fearing Rio and BHP will control global steel prices.

The poor old steel mills are making very little money, the iron industry is making record margins
and the steel mills have a in Europe and I think the EU will simply say no.

Some Rio shareholders are also saying no because the company's no longer drowning in debt and
surging iron ore prices have made its business much more valuable. So they see the $5.8 billion US
equalisation equalisation payment Rio was to have received from BHP as part of the deal, as too
little.

We would suggest the payment probably needs to be closer to $10 billion now given what's happened
in the iron ore environment in the last 18 months.

As the two parties have moved on in different directions it would suggest the gulf between them in
terms of the equalisation payment has become increasingly an issue.

Despite this morning's report, analysts say it's unlikely Rio will dump the deal because it will be
hit with a multimillion dollar brake fee, allowing regulators to block the proposal will prove much
more convenient for both companies. There is, of course, the alternative of simply waiting until
the deal expires at the end of the year, and an arrangement with and an arrangement with the West
Australian Government already some degree of cooperation without the regulators approval.

What's not clear is how much of the purported $10 billion in synergy that billion in synergy that
was to come out of the joint venture has been realised as part of that change of arrangements with
with the West Australian Government.

UBS estimates it could be at least $6 billion in savings. Just a day after the Reserve Bank left
rates on hold and the Treasurer fired a warning shot across theirboroughs, talk of an out of cycle
rate rise by the of cycle rate rise by the big banks is back. during the election campaign but
since that was settled, the big four have again been making noises about reviewing raetsz. They
continue to argue a rise independent of the could be needed. Today it was ANZ's crow o Mike Smith's
turn to make the case.

I think the fact of the matter, is if you look at the statistics we're playing about 160 basis
points more on deposits than we were crisis. In mortgages we're only up about 100 basis only up
about 100 basis points, something has to give at some stage.

The RBA itself thinks the big four the big four wanks margins are just fine. Treasurer Wayne Swan
says he doesn't see a case for an out of cycle rate rise while the banks are making record profits
and that's probably the only thing he and the Opposition's Joe Hockey do agree on. Solid gains on
the local sharemarket today, earlier I spoke to David Halliday from Macquarie Private Wealth. David
Halliday, the local market seemed to mirror a very strong Wall Street session really?

It did indeed. The data that came out last night certainly encouraged investors overseas. The data
in manufacturing terms was very strong, the US market had a big run. It run. It saw commodities
move higher and our markets picked up on those leads and ran with them strongly from the get go.
The market remained well bid throughout throughout the course of the session and right into the
close. As you would expect on a day like that, the miners did their share of lifting. BHP and Rio
up by about 2.5%. On the flipside, banks were strong, up by around 1.5 to 2% across the sector in
those four stocks and they added around 13 or 14 points of or 14 points of the 80 points we saw.
The four banks and the two resource stocks accounted for around 40% of the gains of the total
market. They weren't alone. Every other sector in the market was up today. It was a encouraging day
after a soft day yesterday.

Markets strong pretty much around the world, was that on the back of expectation of quantitative
easing in the US. We've just had Japan?

That was Clearly the economic data coming out of the US over the last couple of months has been
very strong. We know the strength of the economic data we've seen here locally, almost enough to
believe the Reserve Bank would lift interest rates yesterday. Quaentative easing coming of what
magnitude is yet to be seen, but certainly positives to come from that and the Reserve Bank of
Japan doing the right thing by the market there. At the same time it does appear the Asian
economies are going at full steam ahead. It's probably not surprising on that basis we are seeing
markets run and look I think people were saying the market might, in fact, have a pullback locally
to around 44 or 4500 points, but that wasn't the case today and it appears many of the funds
somewhat the last 300 or 400 points of gains and in some ways they're forced to participate and
that's what we saw today, a lot of money coming in off the sidelines, a big move to the upside but
also pleasing was the volume, $6 billion worth of shares changing hands and that's back to the type
of levels we to the type of levels we were used to in the bull market pre-GFC. Good

dispute, has that been a relief for investors?

It appears to be the case. The question you must ask is whether gains of around 4% of the share
price today were attributable to that news that came out on the resolution of the shipping case or
whether it was to do with the broader market gain. My feeling is it's probably more to do with
broader market gains. In any case it was good