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days. The Coalition is asking

for help from the Greens to

secure a parliamentary inquiry

into the immigration detention

system. Opposition immigration

spokesman Scott Morrison will

today introduce a motion

calling for that inquiry. For

more on the Greens position, Senator Sarah Hanson-Young

immigration spokes woman for joins us, she is the

the Australian Greens. Good

morning, and thanks for joining us. Good morning. Thanks for

having me. It seems the Greens

and the Opposition both want an

inquiry but for very different

reasons. Can you come to an

accommodation? I would hope

that we could come to some

agreement across the chamber on

this. It's really important

that we start to look at the

problems within the immigration

detention system. And of course

the root problem which is

mandatory detention. We know that mandatory detention has

not worked in Australia for a

long time, it doesn't work to

deal with the needs of asylum

seekers. We have currently a

situation where hundreds of

children are locked up because

under the legislation they

mandatorily have to be along

with their families. And we

know that the number s of

issues including suicide, cases

of self-harm, young people

attempting to hang themselves

with their bed sheets, these

aren't thing s that as a

compassionate country we can

turn our eyes from. As

parliamentians it's time that

we had a good hard look at what

we're doing to people and that this system just isn't

working. That is my point about

the two of you being in very

different places. You wantant

inquiry to look at that. The

Opposition's inquiry is coming

to grips with the Government

not having in place a tough

enough policy in its view. So,

given you both have those very

difference positions, can you

both support an inquiry that actually brings about the

result, the very two different

results that you both might

want? I would hope that we could get agreement from not

just the Coalition but s in the

Government. And I understand -

I've seen the report saying the

Government has labelled this a

stunt. It will only be a stunt

if indeed it's simply left up

to the Coalition and it ends up

being a Coalition witch hunt.

If we can make it more

constructive, if we can look at

how we can get people out of

detention rather than finding

ways to keep them in, including

children, if we can look at how children, if we can look at how

much money this is being wasted

of taxpayers cash, we know that

it's ridiculously expensive.

There are cheaper ways - You do

have an agreement with the

Coalition on that. I want to

get to the heart of how it is

that you believe you can reconcile those two very

different positions. Do you

think - understanding what you

do about the Opposition's immigration policy, do you

believe you can put up your

hand then and support their

motion calling for an

inquiry? We're currently in

negotiations and I've arranged to meet with Scott Morrison

today. So it's today. So it's looking

positive? To talk about the

terms of lefrns and to say we

want to see a broad level of

inquiry. Any inquiry must look

at the damaging effects of

mandatory detention. The

alternatives to mandatory

detention and how we can make

it cheaper for taxpayers. If we

get agreement can do those things, if we can

get agreement from the

Government that they will be

cooperative, then I think

hopefully we can have a

constructive discussion and a

constructive inquiry. If we

can't get those things, then it

will end up just being another

witch hunt led by the

Opposition. I don't want to see

that. I want to see something

that is productive, something

that is constructive and the

Green s have to be responsible

in this. It is not about just

turning a blind eye because it

may suit government of the day

and it is not about setting up

a situation which simply props

up a failed system. It is about

having a good hard look at the

fact that mandatory detention

has failed. Let's turn to the

other big issue of the way, the

climate Commission releasing

its first report. It's clear in

this report there needs to be

heavy pressure put on industry

that the price on carbon needs

to be tough enough to actually

be a strong disincentive to

pollution. How does this

difference of opinion between

the Greens and the Government

over a carbon price get

resolved? Whose view prevails? Of course this is, as

we have seen in the last couple

of week, this is a key issue

that's been discussed within

the committee and it will

continue to need to be discussed until there is agreement. Currently there

isn't. But what this commission

report shows is that we do need

an effective price so we can

tackle climate change, we can

set those signals and start to

take the action needed. If we

don't have an effective price,

then of course we end up with

something that's not going to

deliver much result. Yes, and I

spent a great deal of time Will

Steffen eliminating that so it

doesn't need to be repeated

now. I am just wondering how it

is you will see that resolved

serious price so there is now. He says it needs to be a

pressure. But we heard what the Government had to say last

week, well south of $40 is

tonne a what it looks like. In

is just another report that has

been produced, commissioned by

the Government, as was last

week's report. The Government

needs to heed the evidence and

advice from their own inquiries

and their own reports. Do you

see this report giving you more

- bolstering your argument more

than, say, the Government's argument? This report says we need a strong and effective

price. That's what the Greens

have always been advocating. It

is now up to the other sides of politics to say why they will

ignore the evidence. Alright,

and if you can't get agreement,

if the figure is not actually

announced by the Government

that you can't Li with, what do

you do? I hope, Virginia, re we

are not going to get to that

point. I am not willing to give

up yet. The Greens are at the

table negotiating and debatings

ing. Unlike the Coalition we oh

oh competent forward

constructive, responsible

approach and that is what we

will keep doing. Lots of