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Good morning and welcome to the

the final in siders program

the year. What a year it was

with the emergence of the tirs female Prime Minister in Australia, a hung parliament and and later we'll look back on

some of the more bizarre and

amusing moments. First, this is

how ittened with a special

sitting and final sitting week

of the parliament on Monday and

a glimpse into what lies ahead

in 2011. MPs return to house of reps in Canberra today

for what should now finally be

the last sitting day for the year. It's never a waste of time for parliament to time for parliament to be

recalled. Never. I've got

stuff to do at home. Order!

Labor members and members of

the cross bench have come here today to deliver a nation-changing microeconomic

reform. They've demonstrated

no capacity to govern in the

interests of Australia. The Opposition's come have a temper tantrum. The problem is Labor, Mr Speaker. have a temper tantrum. The

That is the problem. Acting

like 2-year-olds mired in their

bitterness, in their bitterness

about defeat, in their

sourness, in their

destructiveness ch I did not

come here for rhetoric over

reality. I did not come here

for politics over policy.

for politics over policy.

# And pray for the thunder and the rain to quietly pass me

by... He doesn't like it, does he? Prime Minister will

return- The Leader of the

Opposition resume his seat.

They did get some work done,

breaking up Telstra and laying

national broadband the foundations for the

national broadband network.

All those of that opinion say

All those of that opinion say

aye, contrary no. I think the

ayes have it. They weren't

real fair dinkum, were they? Order. No, the leader of the

House has the call. You might

occasionally even get a bit of legislation passed but you

cannot save a bad Government.

How bitter they are, how sour

they they are, how sad they are as

they limp their way out of 2010

and into 2011. 2010 is ending very badly for Minister's looking ahead to Labor Party. Already the Prime


# Where do we go now? # 2011 will be a year delivery and decisions. She's just discovered that the year just discovered that the year

2011 should be all about

decision and delivery. Well,

that would be a change, Mr

Speaker, wouldn't it? Next

year is going to be the year of delivery and decisions. delivery first and decisions etlaer. - and later. etlaer. - and decisions

later. I promise you no

responsible decision-maker will

be able to say next year be able to say next year that

they need more time or more

information on climate change.

The carbon tax that she ruled out

out before an election has been

ruled in. 2011 is also we deliver historic health

be done in 2009, Mr Speaker. It reform. That was supposed to

will never work. It will never work. In 2011 there will be

nowhere to hide. On that note,

good-bye and happy Christmas.

good-bye and happy Christmas.

And our program guests thus

Opposition, Tony Abbott. First morning joining us in the

we'll see what the papers are

saying this Sunday and page 1

of 'The Age' in Melbourne has the WikiLeaks founder Julian Government has betrayed him,

David Marr. Yes, he has given

the Government an enormous spray for its lack of support, for

for being part of the US-led

world alliance to shut

WikiLeaks down and to smear him

and I must say that McClelland, seems to be saying

some pretty extraordinary things at the moment, not only

just amazingly over-blowing the

danger of the leaks but saying things like, "Mr Assange might

not be welcome back in

Australia." There aren't international rules more basic

than the fact that you can't

keep your own nationals out of

their country but there's a huge amount of ugly rhetoric

going on at the moment about

the leaks which are meantime fabulously entertaining instructive and the really bad news of the morning is that it

may be as late as late January

before we get to the Australian

documents. Let hear from the Attorney-General Brendan McClelland and hear

McClelland and hear what he had

to say about this. What about

the question about the passport? What's the Australian Government's position? There are both

issues in respect to serving a notice of cancellation but there

there are also issues as to

whether it would be

constructive or counter

productive to the enforcement effort. Any Australian citizen has their

right as an Australian citizen

but that also includes but that also includes the consequences for breaching any laws of laws of another country, United States law enforcement

authorities are looking very,

very closely at the fact that

United States laws may have

been breached. I've stated that

Australian Federal police are

looking at the issue as to

whether any Australian laws might have been breached. We

have indicated also we would provide every United States law United States law enforcement

authority. Lenore? Isn't the

point that as of now they

haven't found any law that has

been breached and

charged him with breaching any

law and it would therefore seem

kind of premature to be talking

about cancelling his passport

or not welcoming him back to

his country of birth if he

hasn't been charged with

anything and his main crime

seems to be embarrassing the US

Government. As I understand

Government. As I understand it,

WikiLeaks does go through these documents and redact any that have got genuine national security implications and

that's as it should be but the

ones that and out, I can't see anything in them that does anything in them to endanger operativess in the field. If

there's evidence of that the

Government should provide the

evidence before they talk about cancelling someone's passport. David's point

ininteresting, waiting for the Australian flood to Australian flood to come out. Just in preparation for this,

if we just think of someone who

is in the area of diplomacy and foreign talking a lot about other people

people and himself. I can't think of

anyone. He was the Prime

Minister for a while. That

could have been him. I wonder if Kevin Rudd is going to

feature in Mr Assange's- Imagine American Imagine American reports of

Rudd's gossip to American ambassadors. Fantastic. It

looks as if they're trying to

build a case against Assange

which is difficult in itself

you'd think but the original

leaker is the one that you'd

think might be in trouble if

they could ever identify person, in big trouble if people like Bill O'Reilly and Mike Huckabee get their Mike Huckabee get their way. Here they are. WhOfrb Here they are. WhOfrb leaked the State Department documents to the WikiLeaks website is a traitor and should be executed

and put in prison for life Whoever in our Government leaked that information is

guilty of treez scpn I think

anything less than execution is

too kind a penalty. He was a presidential candidate. Were

those men around at the time of

the Vietnam papers? That is exactly

exactly what was said about -

Pentagon papers, that's exactly

what was said about Daniel

Elsberg, he's a traitor, should be shot and put in prison for life

for the leaks and I'm assuming

the legal processes will go

through and he's the through and he's the person against whom a charge is to be made, not against the messenger. The US Supreme

Court said Elsberg was fine

doing what he did. The guy who

downloaded the stuff, the way he got around he got around US security has

to be noted. He Afghanistan, love-lorn because

of an affair he'd had with a

drag queen had fallen through,

love-lorn, pretending to lip

sync to a Lady Gaga CD he'd

actually wiped and he was

downloading the stuff on to the

Lady Gaga CD but sitting there

pretending to sing along and

slipped it into his - I was

going to say purse - and left

the base. That's how we know

all these fabulous things. A love affair with a drag - further grounds for execution

I'd say. And Hillary Clinton of course laughed the whole thing

off saying this is kind of diplomacy but a little more

candid than normal but then of

course there were these

comments about the British

troops and that they lacked

ticker so I think that's

getting a little more difficult

now for the American to explain

to Britain. But Bob Gates, the

Defence Secretary, said this

week, "This stuff's embarrassing but it's not going

to have much impact on how the United States does around the world." That's the Sunday papers. The Leader of the Opposition, Tony Abbott is about to join us in the studio.

He was asked this week what he

would give the Prime Minister for Christmas and he suggested anger

anger management courses or

chill pills. That's what he came up with after this spray

in the parliament on Monday.

So reckless is he, so

incompetent is he, so dis interested in anything to do

with the economy. His own back

bench, their yeahs trailing

along the ground because they

know - their jaws trailing along

know in their heart of hearts

if they are to sustain support

in their electorates they need

to go to their electorates with

a positive plan. He may be here a positive plan. He may be here yelling and screaming this December but it will be very interesting to see what's happening next December, Mr

Speaker. You can't sustain

political support in this

country based on negativity,

bitterness and three-word

slogans that he is a man empty of conviction, empty of ideas

and by next December he will be

standing in front the Australian people and his

own back bench revealed own back bench revealed as precisely that. Tony Abbott, good morning. good morning. Welcome. Morning, Barrie. Institute What do you make of What do you make of that? Is

it the normal cut and thrust of

politic s? I think she was

sounding like it alternative

Opposition Leader and not the

Prime Minister and I think

that's a real pity. It doesn't

look like a Government, it looks like an alternative

Opposition and that's one of

the reasons people the reasons people are getting off Labor. Is it getting to

you? Do I look hurt or upset?

You did say it was needlessly

personal. Again, she does look like an alternative Opposition Leader. She's making the Leader. She's making the kind of attacks on the that are more

characteristically the characteristically the attacks the Opposition makes on the

Government. What do you think

about the wrecker tag though?

Is that starting to bite, is it something you should be aware of?

of? Obviously she is worried

that we are effective that we are effective critics

of the Government and the fact that they

means that our critique is

effective. But you know if

they say it often enough

sometimes it sticks. The Geobels technique, repeating the big lie and

people will eventually believe

it. I don't think anyone who

watch mead and watched the watch mead and watched the Coalition through the election

campaign would say we lacked

positive policies on welfare,

on health, on education, on the

economy. We came up with

positive proposals that would problems our country faces. Since the campaign though and

looking through more forward to

next year, what do you really

want to achieve next year apart from holding the Government to account? That is important. In the end, that

the end, that is the core business of Opposition, but

we've also got to be a credible

alternative and that's why I'm

talking about lower taxes,

fairer welfare, better services and stronger borders. And not

stopping the boats anymore?

Well, um, stronger borders is, if you like,

Barrie, of stopping the boats.

It's a new phrase. What

happened to stopping the boats some Stopping some Stopping the boats does need to happen. We can't have stronger borders if the boats

keep coming but it is important

to have - to be a credible

alternative and that's why, as

I said, it will be low taxes,

fairer welfare, better services

and stronger borders. Is that

it for 2011, just come up with

a new slogan? We're going to

deepen our conversation with policies we took policies we took to the election, the Paul ess that

would get more - policies that

would get more women into

would get more women into the workforce, more seniors workforce, more seniors into the workforce, more young people, particularly people

who'd been on welfare for a

lung time into the workforce,

if you look at what we were

saying about getting better locally managed hospitals,

better locally managed schools, these were all very good policies but we need to own

them with

that I suspect we don't yet,

Barrie, and that's the task of 2011, to give the Australian people we to be in Government things

would be different and better

and that we could implement

policy without the kind of

disaster after disaster, the

sham bolic implementation which has characterised this Government. When you're talking about getting more people into the workforce, unemployment is plan to do that? We also have

very large numbers of people on

benefits who are working-age people. We have a comparatively low participation rate. We have

a lot of older people who I think still have a contribution

to make economically as well as

socially and we want to develop

the policies that we took to

the election. There is room in

the workforce for them? Look, if you talk if you talk to employers, many of them will say that they would like to employ more people, the question is do they

have the people, do they have

the system? the system? On industrial

relations, mored broadly, Andrew Robb Andrew Robb says business is

getting restless again but you

don't seem to detect that? My door

door hasn't been knocked down

in the rush of people saying,

"You've got to change Labor's

system." As I have said so many

times, let me repeat it, Barrie, WorkChoices is dead,

buried and cremated and as far as the Coalition is concerned

it always will be but it's now

up to business and others up to business and others to

come to us if they think there are problems with are problems with the operation

and implementation of Labor's laws. If people think there is

a case for change they need to make that case for change as

far as the Coalition is

concerned, our approach will be pragmatic and problem-solving,

it won't be ideological. If

they make the case for change law s? Let's see them make the

case for change. but it follows

that if they make the case

you'll change the laws. If

there are big problems,

obviously we will address them, but people have to make the

case for change, people have to

come to us and say, "These are

the problems that are being

caused by Labor's laws." The

laws aren't cremated at all.

WorkChoices is dead, buried and cremated. But you cremated. But you are open to

making changes to the laws? If there are

and people can make the case

for change, obviously we're not

deaf, dumb and blind here, but

they've got to make the case

for change. In a sense, it is

up to them to make the case for change, to bring us the problems. On the election and reflecting back on reflecting back on that, you do seem to suggest that

technically you won but you lost the negotiations afterwards? We certainly did lose about that. Why did that happen? I'm not going to speculate. It was an interesting 17 interesting 17 days.Er want I

thurlings - I think I put my

best foot forward but they didn't want didn't want to dance with me.

Julia Gillard is a better

negotiator. Do you accept

Senate In that context there

is No Doubt about it, she got

two and I got one. Icise and

she's done pretty well since on negotiations. 54 bills have gone through gone through and it's 54-0.

Most of them with Coalition

support. Most of the bills that went through were went through were comparatively uncontentious. The fact of the

matter is this a-S a bad

Government getting worse and

the barrage of criticism from

within Labor's ranks, the of within Labor's ranks, the orgy

of naval gazing going on inside the Labor Party the Labor Party now demonstrates this is its soul. what do you its soul. what do you think

were your greatest achievements during

during 2010? I don't want during 2010? I don't want to

beblow my own trumpet. I just want to say that I

to have the chance to lead the

party and I'm pleased to

continue to have that chance to

lead the party. And you

brought down Kevin Rudd, you've

taken credit for that. taken credit for that. Look,

Kevin Rudd obviously is no longer the Prime Minister, although I think his for better or for worse for better or for worse -

perhaps for worse as far as perhaps for worse as far as the current Prime Minister is

concerned - lives on. You have said about Kevin Rudd he was

the most unfairly

in Australian political

history. You're the one who

brought him down. It

brought him down. It wasn't

just me but the fact - I did my

job, Barrie. I did my job which

is to hold the Government of

the day to account. The people

who didn't do their who didn't do their job- Athise

a contradiction there. You say

you did your job in bringing

down somy who was the unfairly treated person in Australian political

Australian political history.

There is No Doubt he was very unfairly treated by many of his

colleagues. And by you. I colleagues. And by you. I did my job, the my job, the question is did the

Labor Party do its job? Did

they give their then Prime

Minister the support he

deserved under pressure? As

Julia Gillard has said there

shouldn't be an election next year

year or 2012, she's looking at

2013, do you think that's

likely that there won't beach an election are two days to have an

election. The first is for the

Prime Minister to go to Government House and seek Government House and seek a dissolution and the second is

if a vote of no-confidence

if a vote of no-confidence in the Government the Government is carried in

the parliament. I don't think

Julia Gillard is in any hurry

to ask for an election because

I think that the Labor brand is increasingly toxic right around

the country and at the moment

there's no indication that the

Independents are likely to change their mind. If it does

go all the way to 2013, by

we'll have clear evidence as to

whether there is a surplus in

the 2012/13 Budget. If they

were to achieve a surplus, would you accept they're better economic managers than you've

given them credit for? The only way they will ever achieve

a surplus - and it's a big if - is through higher taxes,

Barrie. That is the inevitable

consequence of the continuation of this Government, a mining

tax that will damage our most

productive sector, and a carbon tax

family's cost of living so if

they achieve a surplus it will

be on the back of unnecessary and destructive new taxes. On the experience in Victoria, Ted Baillieu Baillieu gave preferences to Labor ahead of the Greens and

seemed to win lot of respect

for that. Willia do like-wise

at the federal election? First

let me just say what a great job Ted Baillieu did.

Absolutely magnificent job. Really great Really great job. Second, he made preferences 13 days before the

election and I suspect that

well before the next federal

election, Barrie, you will know

what we're what we're doing with

preferences but please, we're

about 800 days perhaps out from

the federal election, it's

premature to speakulate about

this. It's not a political decision to make, it's a

position on principle, isn't position on principle, isn't

it, and Labor's not going to change, the Greens aren't going

to change in that time. As I said, Ted, to his the decision 13 days before an election. What I'm doing is

pointing out the truth and the

truth is that while Labor is in

Government the Greens are in power. This is a Labor-Green

alliance. Nearly all of the policy changes which the

Government has announced since the

the election, the carbon tax ,

the watering-down of detention, the permanent nationalisation

of the NBN, are all - the gay all a response to Green pressure. Let's break down

what preferences really mean.

Who would you prefer to run the

party if it was a choice between Labor between Labor and the Greens? It's not. It's a It's not. It's a choice between

Labor and the Coalition and I

would prefer a Coalition Government every day.

Government every day. Just

finally on the WikiLeaks matter and Julian Assange's said the

Government has betrayed him. He

is an Australian citizen. Do

you think his right are being protected? The first thing to say, Barrie, is anything which detracts from national detracts from national and

international security is very serious. It's most unfortunate. I I presume that the US Government is going after the

people who provided information

to Assange. As for Assange, if

he's broken the law he should

be prosecuted. Would you have

cancelled his passport by now?

As I said, if he's broken the

law he should be prosecuted.

That's what should happen. There's

There's no evidence he's broken

the law to this point. Rel, that's up to the relevant authorities.

authorities. If he's broken the law

law he should be prosecuted.

And finally, what are you doing

over Christmas? Are you taking

a long break? I will have a

break, Barrie. I'll be off to

the caravan park on the south

coast as usual with some of my

old friends and their old friends and their families,

but while individuals will have

a break, the Coalition is never on

on holidays. Thanks for joining

us here on the studio. Appreciate Appreciate it. Thank you.

# We dance alone tonight because

# We dance to a different

disco... Alright. Feeling

pretty good. I thought I'd just provide just provide an update today on

the election. Mr Premier!

(Bleep). I believe that we

will pick up I believe we will form

Government. The le election result is moment. The verdict isn't in.

The votes have not all been

counted. In my heart I hoped we'd

we'd get back with a small

majority. Lovely to have you

at home but could you please leave quietly and close the

door as you go? By Monday night we should have a pretty

accurate picture of the way

this is all moving. In football match, even when your

team is behind it perhaps has no realistic prospect of

winning, you don't walk off the ground until the siren sounds. It will be good to get hold the reigns. We will wait the reigns. We will wait and

see what the count delivers

today. My mobile phone has melted. Just spoken to Ted

Baillieu and I've congratulated

him on his election victory. Are you excited? Of course

with Peter we are both excited. The electorate has

spoken and I think we must respect their verdict. respect their verdict. The

wait of time took its

I've got to say I love this

bloke. Mr Baillieu, what's

your first day hold as the 46th

Premier of Victoria? Well,

it's obviously a very exciting

day and it's a very humbling day. We're our media conferences in order. Thank you. Well done.

Congratulations. I'm a stayer.

I stay the course. I'm only

human. Of course I'm disappointed. I'm an egg-hatcher not a

chicken-counter. All we have achieved so far is an tuchbility As Ted has said, it is an extraordinary privilege. Cannot tell

Cannot tell you how humble I feel. feel. Strangely enough, not

everybody voted for us. I

Edward Norman Baillieu swear by

almight y God that that as

Premier, I will at all times

discharge the duties of my

office according to law without fear, favour fear, favour or affection. We

just didn't expect to lose. But pluz they did guess the question is what will

be the impact on COAG for

example, given that you got

that outcome in Victoria and

the prospect in NSW allant great for Labor either. My

first prayer is Tony

left the studio and didn't see

the budgie smuggler the budgie smuggler push-up

shots because we don't want

that in the Federal arena. Julia Gillard says this is the

year of deliver any it has to

be for Labor but almost

everything she has to deliver requires buy-in from the states. You think the states. You think the mining

tax, hospital reforms, water reforms, Andrew Wilkie's pokies

measures, even the carbon tax,

business will want the states

to take off inefficient tax physical a physical a Federal tax comes in. in. All of it requires buy-in

from the states. Having two and soon three Conservative Premiers doesn't mean they'll

always be against what the

Federal Government proposes but

it makes it much harder to use Labor Party contacts to

strong-arm the Premiers and it

makes it much more likely there

$will be a hold-out onthenings and makes her year more difficult. What Ted Baillieu

has said, talking about health,

but he said as he sees but he said as he sees it at

the moment it's a trice the

average. He wants some change but

but he hasn't at this point

said that I'm going to be - I'm going to get in the way of the

Government on health or

Murray-Darling oranything

else. No, but remember that

for five years John Howard was

Prime Minister when the next

most senior elected Liberal was

the Lord Mayor of Brisbane and

he managed to do

he managed to do some things through the COAG process. Now,

as in then, Premiers will make

decisions based entirely on

State interests and protecting their ex-checkers. It doesn't

matter what badge they carry on

their lapel and the their lapel and the same will

go with the new Premier of

Victoria. Not much has changed

really. The point is most of

what the Federal Government is doing as an doing as an affect on their

ex-chequers, the health reform,

mining tax, reduce State's revenue or ability to raise

revenue. And the capacity to

compensate for change is much diminished now. Of course

Baillieu is taking over a State

which under Labor was

notoriously difficult for Canberra to deal with. It was extremely difficult to deal

with on water, it was extremely difficult to deal with on

health. In fact it was the

Brumby laing which really busted

busted Rudd's ambition to

transfer to Canberra control of

the absolute control of the

health of the nation. The other

really interesting thing is the

rise of the Nationals. Nationals got a very strong

vote in Canberra, it was up

something like 25% for them,

and the Nationals are the party of the irrigators and the chances now chances now for real change in

the Murray-Darling, over the

next political cycle, next political cycle, are looking slight. The Nationals

are about to be back in power

in NSW, they're back in power

in Victoria and they do not

like - they will fight for irrigators. They will fight for water. Whatever Julia Gillard

does requires the State to ledge jat subsequently so I agree with your assessment.

What do you thing the Nationals

think about the NBN in their private moment s? They want it. Everybody in it. Everybody in the bush is

telling them theytiment and in fact everybody in Australia wants it except Tony Abbott and a coterie of his party. The NbN

and polling figures on

essential polls this week, the

NBN is more popular with Labor voters than even with Green voters. It's extraordinarily popular in the bush. The message of Australia is just get on and do the bloody thing. What was the message

from the Victorian election as far as the far as the Greens are concern

sphed there is a suggestion that maybe their that maybe their voters levelled out, that it did

improve slightly nevertheless,

here's Bob Brown. Like Kermit said, being green is not

necessarily easy because we've

had a lot thrown at us in this election campaign. The

disappointment was there

because they didn't get the preferences and therefore didn't win seats but you still get the sense get the sense that maybe - I'm

not suggesting that they

for a long time but the vote

might have peaked. I think preferencing always affects the

Greens. I think the interesting

thing in the Federal arena is everyone is focussing on the threat the Greens pose to Labor

and undoubtedly they do and we've talked about that, no-one

is focused on the threat Labor

poses to the Greens which is if Labor manages

Labor manages to co-opt the more politically palatable

parts of the Greens change, that pose as big threat

to the Greens potentially and

that's what happened in the

early days with the Greens in

Germany, they co-opted

the Greens agenda and didn't

have appeal to the mainstream

anymore. I think the threat goes both goes both way. I climate

change, the big sticking point

is at what rate or price do you

put on carbon and they're miles

apart on that and on

compensation to industry. Absolutely and I think this

game of bluff is going to be

things about next year. In my

assessment, both the Greens and Labor need something to come

out of this. I don't think kierth go back to kierth go back to the voters with nothing again but they had ir reconcilable differences

last time. Each need to own the

outcome so they are starting

miles apart, they have put aside the argument about

targets but that argument is

going to be had by proxy when

they talk about the price

because once you've got the

price you can figure target is going to get to and

they're miles apart on that and now they're doing positioning on whether electricity generators shouldigate any generators shouldigate any

compensation. The Greens say nothing. nothing. That's not Labor's

position. I think how that

negotiation goes through next

year is going to be really

interesting and really critical

for both of them. Let's hear

now from Julia Gillard. This is

what she says about next year and what it ought to

represent. I intend for 2011 to be defined less by politics and Australians do not face a

federal election next federal election next year or

the year after. Australians do

not want their Government not want their Government to campaign, Australians want

their Government to

govern. It's about policy not politics, flartsz something

that she's clearly earn learned

from the Rudd period. Whether

in fact they can bring it about

is the trick. I think Julia

Gillard has a lot to overcome

over the last 2.5 months or so since

since the formation of minority Government, her

efforts, her energies have been almost entirely directed at preserving the Government and at the end of the parliamentary

year she essentially was celebrating, celebrating, look, 54 bills we

passed even though we're in

minority Government. I mean, 51

of them were sort of, "Don't

shoot Bambi bills." Nothing controversial but to the

Government the main objective Government the main objective

of these last few months was

pure survival. I've got to tell

you out there voters think, look, thank what about us? What are you

going to do for us? Not just Labor Party survival. Next Labor Party survival. Next year

she's got to get back into the

ring and establish with voters

she's going to

that affect them directly and

it's not just about her own -

keeping her own job. Malcolm,

isn't that what's called politics? I don't politics? I don't understand,

how do you disentangle

Government and politic s? You

are an effective leader. That's

what she's got to become.

Sure. I'm not saying she had

particularly many more choices

over the last few months but

she's in now. I don't see how

she can suggest there's purist,

2011 is going to be this purist

time when we govern and don't

Paul tick. If she doesn't Paul tick. If she doesn't

politic politic crazy she's not

going to govern. Would you say

the agenda she confronts - and

it's huge when you look at

issues like health and the

Murray-Darling Basin and bedding down the NBN and

climate change, if she was just

to get on outcome on to get on outcome on perhaps all of them, that would be a good year's would be an enormous year's work when you consider all of

the problems in front of each

of the issues, first getting through all the policy

difficulties she's inherited from the from the Government in which she was deputy prime minister

but in any event, then to get them past the states - well,

then to get them past the

minority parliament and then

past the states, she's got a

lot of hurdles on every single one one of them. Doesn't Tony

Abbott have the same prns on

the same policies - problems on the same policies, particularly the economy and climate the economy and climate change,

he's got to come up with a

lovely package of new taxes. The man who campaigns against

big new taxes has big new taxes has got to come up with big new taxes. Immigration, a huge issue for

the Opposition, and for the

Government to try and finally

get a definitive policy on it.

I gree with you and Tony Abbott

seemed to be saying last week that, yes, he was going to come

up with this next year would be a year a year of policy development

for him as well bought in the

was saying he wanted to own the

policies he's already got. I

don't think that is going to

get him there. He was so defensive on

defensive on IR. He wasn't

saying, "We'll explore industrial relations, work place relations and thing we can do," he said, "We'll sit

down." Dead, buried, cremated and if they argue and if they argue hard enough

possibly resurrected. And yet

Andrew Robb is heading up the

review and said there will be

time. There's a deep split in

the Liberal Party over this because they remain warriors. They remain industrial

relations warriors in that party. party. Abbott has read the politics of it, knows that WorkChoices busted the previous

Government, knows that it can't

be resphored. What we saw this

morning from him is an attempt

to funangal his way through a terribly difficult thing but

look at this guy, he knows

WorkChoices is impossible in

his own party, big sections of

it, he knows it, he knows the national broadband network is

overwhelmingly popular with the Australian people and he's set

his sights against it. He knows inunderlying Australia is to do something

about climate change and yet there he is block proposals there he is block proposals and suggesting proposals of his own which will get nowhere. He's

actually in a fantastically difficult political situation. With industrial relations, you

call it warriors but it's an

issue offidia ladgical belief for Andrew Robb and

to be an implausible situation

to say, "We're fought going to

do anything ever again. That's

us, we're out on that issue

unless you make our lives

impovel." Why has he changed

the slogans? Now it's about

fair welfare can the rest of it

and he's dropped the stop the

boats thing. He's dropped the

word stop. Is it because the

wrecker thing is starting to

bite? I think the perception bite which is why he's talking

about policy development which

they were always doing anyway

and I think changing the slogan

so they found positive ran stopping things and ending

things is a way of addressing

that as well I'd like to think

that also their polling is

telling them that stopping the

boats - we're getting down to boats - we're getting down to

some pretty ugly options for

stopping the boats and that

might be cutting through to the

Australian people, that we're

getting down to the very, very

cruel end of the propositions

and maybe he just props that

form of words. Do you get the

impression though listening to

that interview and others he's

done during the week that he's

over the election now because

there was - the Government says

constantly of him that he's still like the 2-year-old throwing a tantrum and hasn't

got over it? I don't think he accepts the legitimacy or any

mandate at all for the Gillard Government. You've got to remember remember that the last two

sitting days in the Senate and House of Representatives of the

parliamentary year involved

enormous debate and a lot of

ranting associated with a ranting associated with a bill which the anti-depressant

supported in principle. chthe Opposition supported in

principle. You don't go in and start throwing things around

and tossing the stuffed toys

and tossing the stuffed toys

out of the bas net on bill you

effectively support unless you

want to create a perception of disruption, create the perception that the Government is not in control Government and this Prime

Minister is not in control.

The great problem he's got is the three Independents are approaching things very

methodically and very methodically and very calmly, are each trying to are each trying to get their particular agendas up but particular agendas up but when it comes to Government policy

are basically taking a fairly

positive approach. What do you think the public perception is

then of the minority

Government, how it's working

and whether or not there is a

plus side, an up side to the

whole thing? What do you think the Independents? I don't reckon

the public have made up their

mind yet and I don't reckon

they can because the parliament hasn't hasn't yet grappled with a big issue we've seen small pieces of legislation go through but

it hasn't had a big test on a

big issue yet. That will be

next year. I think people are exhausted with politics and

waiting to see and reserving judgment both on Labor and on

the operation of a mijOrt parliament until there's clearing evidence and that's

probably a very smart position

to take. Those Independents and Greens are very different peep very different peep knl

represent - there's one from almost every State right around

the country. It's a nice little

set that you could put up set that you could put up on

the shelf there and it's like collecting teaspoons from every

State. I think we tend to

forget that nearly every State

has recently had experience of

minority Government that is kept there by kept there by Independents.

It's not such an unusual

situation across Australia. I don'thening seeing it as some kind of wild

experiment in Canberra, they

just want results and Gillard's

problem is that she does not

have political capital. She

does not have much political capital to spend.

get the party in from

Opposition. She didn't have a

convincinging win. She had a

stalemate at the last election therefore every major bill she gets through is an gets through is an attempt to

build up a little bit of

political capital. But then you

think through - you think ahead

to next year and you wonder to next year and you wonder

where that momentum will from because Federal parliament

sits on February 8 but there's

an election in NSW in March that will fairly quickly

consume everything, bad result you could think, and they've got a conference later in the year with tricky in the year with tricky

issues. I I think will be a

difficult year to manage.

They've weighted the sittings

to the end of the year when at

least they only have to deal

with the Greens in the Senate

and not the two Independents

and a lot of their issues are

going to take until then to be

battening down the hatches for

a long, hard haul to get some

of the policies through and actually prove by doing that

they're not a mess as Tony Abbott

Abbott keeps saying and if they can't then that attack by Tony

Abbott has real potency because

they haven't got runs on the boired. They really have to

prove themselves next year.

They know it and there's no

easy way to do it and they're going

going to have to get greedy and

keep going. If they go into the second half of the year then

Queensland kicks in as well.

There will be a lot of talk

then about an approaching election there. There is election there. There is going to be a lot of political energy

consumed by the two states and on avenue occasion Julia

Gillard is going to be made to

stand next to a doomed Premier. A doomed woman Premier. That's right. She

narrowly avoided the World Cup

loss by not going to Zurich but

she's not going to avoid she's not going to avoid the

losses in Sydney and Brisbane.

On COAG just one point, that On COAG

process has really slowed down. There won't have been a meeting

for almost a year. There hasn't

been a meeting since April.

They may be able to fit one in in February but then you have

to wonder why you'd want

decisions taken when the NSW

Government was about to Government was about to change.

They probably can't have an

effective meeting until April

and it will be a full year between between drinks. You wondered

why your life felt so why your life felt so empty, because of the absence of

up shortly. Bono was in town up COAG. Talking Pictures coming

this week as part of world AIDS Day and the innocent bystander in the middle there is Tim

Matheson, Julia Gillard's

partner. Bonbon was met by

Julia Gillard and Kristina Julia Gillard - Bono was met by

Keneally and had this

observation to make. With the

chopper it really did feel like I was in 'Charlie's Angels'

there . (LAUGHTER) Wendy,

the PM, the Premier. Down

shortly. Malcolm Farr, David my arse. More with our panel

Marr and Lenore Taylor but Marr and Lenore Taylor but time now for Talking Here's Mike Bowers wraching Here's Mike Bowers wraching up

the year in pictures and

cartoons with Reg Lynch from

the Sun Herald. I'm Mike

Bowers. We've come to the Museum of Democracy at Old

Parliament House in Canberra

which is hosting the 2010 Lines political cartooning National

exhibition and a magnificent thing it is too, Reg. thing it is too, Reg. Herald

Wilson said a week was a long

time in politics. It certainly has been a very, very for Kevin Rudd. It's been a big

year for Kevin, hasn't it? I

do love this Nicholson. It's

the museum of great ideas at

the time and the aluminium

cricket bat in the case next to

New coke, i-Snack and Kevin '07

Mark Latham was a having a cry. It was a great

Mark Latham was a bad idea at

the time too. We blew it

Australia, I think. Some of

the pictures, it seems like a

long time since we were taking

the Mickey out of Kevin's

cowlike. She's had a bad hair

year. The pictures taken this

year are going to form a very important historical document

but one of the ones that went

badly - and I think it was a great lesson in great lesson in no matter how

tightly you try to control the

spin on this stuff it doesn't the meeting they had to and one photographer in to do

have.. It's a beautifully

horrible thing. It is. I horrible thing. It is. I think

this picture will stand the test test of test of time. Kevin in his reincarnational of course became the Foreign Minister and

Jon Kudelka I think drew one of

the funnier cartoons this year. I think for

year. I think for me that's

the - funny comes first and I

think this is just funny. It's a funny cartoon. Kevin Rudd is

released back into his natural

habitat with Julia Gillard opening opening the cage and, "Be free,

Kevin," flying off. It's a

lovely cartoon. Reg, who would

have thought Tony Abbott this time last year was going to be

the life of the party during

the 2010 election? I think the 2010 election? I think he

did. We did see too much, I think, of Tony Abbott in his

mammal Greer, middle aged men

in lycra. The thing about him

thrusting himself into our

faces is he scared people away.

He was the man of the people

for a while and then people

said, "I don't want to him." Too much lycra. Tony

Abbott managed to admit he wasn't that good with

technology and Mr Zanetti's picked up Tony Abbott picked up Tony Abbott fires off

an email clarifying ing an email clarifying ing his

email broadband gaffe. Nice gag. Here you are, number

quoo. You are flamed. To quoo. You are flamed. To the

loser the spoils this one is

called. Excellent. called. Excellent. Sour grapes. In-I joyed dool that.

Like I said, I don't waste my

Abbott. Just cut him out and glue him

glue him on. He's funny enough.

I've got better things to do. Julia gave us the unreal and then real election and then real election campaign

in 20 10. She must have had a

very confusing year. Who am I

today And they sat right up

until this week and Julia, a

lovely picture of her leaving in

in what has been a remarkable year year for her. Moving forward

out the door. It's been a big

year. Before we slip off we'd

like to encourage everyone to

see the exhibition. Everyone

who's worked on it's done Congratulations to you all as

well. Are you going to do the

final throw for the year? I'd

love to. Off you go. Back to

you, Barrie. Thank you, Mike

Bowers for another great year.

At this time every year At this time every year we record the Matt Price moment in

memory of our former couch

colleague and great friend Matt

Price. We try and find a he would have exploited in his

columns so to give you a sense

of what we're on about we'll go

to what we regard as the gold

standard, that was Brendan Nelson dead-heat would

himself. Every mother loves

her baby, every baby is valued and Mr Rudd

and Mr Rudd should value all

babies equally. We should not

live in an Australia where Mr

Rudd thinks some babies are

more valuable than others. It's

very, very important that Mr

mother loves her baby and this

should be an Australia where

all babies are equal For all babies are equal For those of us who live in the real

world, tonight, Tuesday

in every part of the country except WA except WA there will be queues

of motorists, up to half a

kilometre long, outside petrol

stations. You know why they're

there, Mr Speaker? They'll there, Mr Speaker? They'll be there in their 20-year-old

Mitsubishis, they'll be there

in a 10-year-old Commodore with they'll be there in a Tarago with a wheelchair in with a wheelchair in the back

and five kids. They will be

there, Mr Speaker, because tonight

tonight is the night when you get the cheapest fuel in the

cycle and I say to the Prime

Minister, "Get out of your car

and go down there and ask those

families whether they reckon a

5 cent cut in the excise on

petrol might make a difference." Any time they

want to bring him back is OK by

us. Let's look at all contenders minus the winner of

course. The contenders during

2010. When I first challenged the

Prime Minister to a public

debate on climate change, he refused. He refused, saying that the Coalition had no

policy. Well, Mr Policy - Mr Speaker (Laughs). Order. First time

First time nerves, Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speak

question without notice from Mr

Policy. The member for Dickson

I'm told is a golf fan. I I'm told is a golf fan. I am prepared to offer him some

balls if he wants some. It

might be easy for you to sit in '7.30 Report' land and say that

was easy to do. Let me tell you, mate, it wasn't. We've

got to move on to Kevin Rudd tonight. Complete garbage. ABC

have lost all credibility. All

credibility. Hello! Hello! He

was saying Clive makes fat

profits and he's got fat people

there and fat things there. He

used fat about 50 times. I

stood back and said,

Minister, you've lost every fat

person's vote in Australia." I said, "I called all the said, "I called all the fat

people everywhere to rise up

and join in." When I came back

to Australia they had. The

statements that need to taken absolutely as

taken absolutely as gospel truth is those carefully prepared, scripted

I haven't got the exact figure. I probably need a

staffer like that to be doing

that to me when I was on Kerry

O'Brien the other night. O'Brien the other night. Dr Abbott's miracle cure for climate change. There it is in

the bottle. A bit of dirt a few trees, a few solar trees, a few solar panels. Mix them all in

been seeing glimpses of me but

I'm going to make sure you see

a whole lot more of me. If Julia today is different from

Julia the day before yesterday,

what the hell is going on

here? Push up, girls. Push

up. Tony recfns I get my arse

into a saddle I problems but just watch me, Tony. This

Tony. This isn't a shadow Finance Minister, it's Finance Minister, it's a freak

show. I'mer no Bill Gates and I

I don't claim to be any kind of

tech head. We are going to Australia! Oprah has been

named by Forbes magazine as the most important celebrity in the

world. Thanks, mate. Thousands of Australians, including many of the Opposition House - Opposition side of

tickets to the filming of the Oprah Winfrey show. (LAUGHTER) Mr

Speaker- No,

ignore the invites to name

them. Have you been challenged

in the party room yourself? Challenged? For leadership?

Oh, on leadership? No, I

haven't. I know it's a trivial matter but matter but it is somewhat

concerning. A fluorescent bulb in my office blew the other busy, aren't you, darling? (LAUGHTER) (APPLAUSE) O

well, you remember during the

election campaign that there was the debate ever the that the timing of it and they

ended up shifting the debate to

make way for 'Masterchef', the far more popular 'Masterchef'. Bob Brown missed out on both

dig gigs and had this to say

about that. I haven't written

to 'Masterchef' yet. I'm pretty good on the vegetarian pasta and I've also got a very neat -

a grilled banana with cream,

little brandy in it for the little brandy in it for the sweets and I reckon I could

give them a run for their money. Congratulations, Bob

Brown. You just won something.

And you know he's telling the

truth. We could all use a

little brandy after that, I think. Final observations,

prediction s? An

The casualties of the global financial collapse in financial collapse in political terms terms are quite stark. When

Wayne Swan went to his first G20 Finance Ministers he was if not the newest Finance Minister

of the group he was certainly

one of them. Now he's one of

the veterans. More than half

the G20 Finance Ministers have

disappeared since Swan twlent

so he's in the top 10 now when

at the start he was at the

bottom of the 20. David. this year. As I understand it

will be something like 800

children, over 800 children in

immigration detention at

Christmas this year and this is after after all we've promised not to do, after all of the reports,

all the dangers. This doesn't

have to happen. We choose to have to happen. We choose to do

it. Over 800 kids in immigration immigration detention at

Christmas. We're a good

country. We're a really good

country. We shouldn't do this.

Lenore. Develop 10 has been in

political terms a ripper of a year. It's been amazing. It's

been a roller-coaster. In

policy terms it's been kind of

debereft. Julia Gillard is

saying 2011 will be the year of delivery. Tony Abbott was saying it will be the year when

the Liberals really develop

policies and put them forward.

I say please do because we

really need some proper policy to talk about. And I think it's been

been a ripper year for us as

well thanks largely to our

producers Kelly Mayo and

Justine Kerr who added the creative flare throughout the year and we thank year and we thank them for that. That's the program for

the year. We leave you with assorted bizarre images in what

was absolutely a one-off year in politics. Thanks for watching. We'll see you again

in the new year. 7, 8, 9x 10.

I've warmed it up for you. Politicians shouldn't be let

out in public without a

chaperone. Welcome down,

Tutti-frutti. Thanks very much. If the girls had been

driving it would have been driving it would have been much better. As a woman I want to

be judged on my competence.

Sabotage , that's what it is. Carving a political lobotomy. Your brain is just ripped

apart. You can't think about

things. You're not allowed to

talk about things. That's I reckon. I'm just filled for

love and affection for all of

my colleagues. You'll notice I've just turned the shirt

over. Goodness gracious. To

serve as Prime Minister... No cow.

What a load of balderdash. What a load What a load of absolute buncombe. Hi, guys, buncombe. Hi, guys, how's

everybody? If slag and bag is

in order then I think windbag

is in order.

is in order. Don't vote for

this donkey, vote for this ass.

I don't think we're meant to

be making them lovable.

Another one bites the dust.

Nice to see you and I hope you

enjoy your life as a journalist