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This is PM agenda. Good

afternoon and welcome to PM

Agenda, I'm Ashley Gillan. The

first week of parliament for

2011 has wrapped up with fears

debate over the Government's

handling of the flood's crisis.

Today the opposition peppered

the Government on the impact of

the floods on small business

and the impact of the flood

levy on struggling Australians.

We are already seeing from

this government signs of the

same kind of incompetence and

inept tud which blighted its

delivery of so many programs in

the past The leader of the

opposition is very keen to

throw insults around. Let me

say this, I've never seen such

a continue heart. Trying to

work out how he could surf

these flood waters into kir

Billy. That was the main thing

on his mind Extinguisher on

with his great big few tax

theme today the opposition

leader asked the Government if

it has plan for a boat tax to

deal with the influx of asylum

seekers, a concept rubbished by

the Prime Minister who was in

fire in parliament today The

Government now planning a boat

tax I have contemplated a tax

on three word slogans but

thought it would bankrupt the leader of the opposition so

quickly it would be inappropriate, so I've changed

my mind, but I have

contemplated that tax and may

be be Seger style we should put

one on the table here at the

end of some question time we

Kosmina send some dollars to

the Queensland flood appeal,

knowing the leader of the

opposition he would say send

them to the liberal party instead Earlier today Julia

Gillard did introduce the

Government's flood levy legislation into parliament,

not expected to be voted on

some weeks, so far out of the

independents Bob Catter and

Tony crook who were two who

have declared their support for

the levy. I spoke with another

of the key independents whose

vote will be crew l shal, Tony

Windsor. Tony Windsor thank you

for your time. What are your key concerns about the

Government's flood levy I'm

still wrestling with the

concept of actually raising a

levy to pay for it. I have no problem with people being

helped, I do have issues,

however, whether a levy is the

most appropriate way to do

this, whether budget cuts or in

fact running a small deficit,

to cover it, so that's the

point I'm at. I think the mere

fact we have got to raise a

levy for this particular

outcome means we really need to

put something in place for

future events that don't

necessarily impact on the

budget of the day aren't sort

of revolving around the place

based on political stuff Julia

Gillard's defence of the flood

levy in question time hasn't

gone very far in terms of

swaying you She's looking at

ways of raising the funds.

There are other ways, I've got

to reconcile in my mind whether

I want to support an additional

levy or I've got no doubt if

the levy goes down in the

parliament that there will be

money coming from somewhere to

help the people in Queensland,

so I don't think it's an issue

of whether they get hope help

or not, it's way you fund it Is

it fair to say they're leaning towards looking at trimming

some fat from the budget Or run

a deficit. The Government's got

itself into an odd position,

driven there because of the

Howard rhetoric and the

opposition of having to be in

surplus by 2012, 2013. We had a

Global Financial Crisis where I

think henny put the right package together, had he did

the right thing, that meant a deficit, that the country came

through it, we have got the

best economy in the world. I'm

a little bit at sea given we do

have the best economy in the

world what's wrong with going

into definite for a while.

What's wrong is the treasurer's

put himself in a position where

he sees it as a Mark of his

achieve pt if he's in surplus

an the opposition has driven

them that way as well. But I

have to make that decision,

I'll do it within the next

fortnight You're worried the

Government is playing politics

when it comes to that need to

keep us in surplus by 2013 It's something they've trapped themselves, in made that

judgment themselves based on

what Abbott and others have

said about them in the past.

That's their business, my vote

is about what I think would be

appropriate. In this case a

hung parliament it could make

the difference between the levy

getting up or not. I'm going to

base my decision on what I

think is appropriate, not the politics of what's happening at

the moment How will you

actually go through and doing that, are you going to be

analysing the budget yourself,

trying to come up with some

alternatives? If I was God I'd

cut the baby bonus and fix it

all up, but, no, that's for the

Government to do, if they want

to look at budget cuts, there

is a lot of middle-class

welfare in the last decade of

budgets, John Howard made an

art form of it winning votes

here and there. The Labor party

continued it. If they're

serious about some of these

societal issues in terms of

middle-class welfare it is

probably an appropriate time to

have a look at these

things You'd support cutting

middle clays welfare rather

than - - - I'm not utesing it

as a bargaining chip with the

Government over a long-term

arrangement. My decision will

be made over the most

appropriate way to do it, if it

fits in, so about it What's

your assessment of Tony

Abbott's proposal for savings

earlier in the week I can't

remember all of them, I know

there was some talk about the

bye back arrangements in fact

the committee I'm in, the

Murray darling is looking at

reducing the bye back or advising the Government to

actually do something about the

bye back in specific distracts

where you get what's called the

Swiss cheese effect and

stranded assets Explaining to

us what that is? In various

irrigation is districts,

particularly in New South Wales

and northern Victoria you have

these districts that run as a

corporation. A lot of farms,

say, 100 farms, you can

actually get the bye back can

impact on spots all over the

district, so you end up with

sort of what's called a Swiss cheese effect and the water

will have to flow past a dry

farm to get to a wet one: we're suggesting to the government maybe at this time

it would be appropriate not to

have the bye back operating in

that sense, and use the bye

back more strategy in terms of

the water that does purchase.

In that sense I wouldn't agree

with Tony Abbott, I think the

bye back has to remain,

modifying it so this stranded

asset issue does arise You're

not saying the bye back should

be deferred until a more strata

arrangement is in place We're

saying in terms of the specific irrigation districts where

there is a stranded asset

issue, where it is a problem, that the Government remove

itself if from the market. That

doesn't mean the normal market won't operate, but the

Government is having an impact

it's creating these dots all

over the map you've got to run

water past. That's wasteful

distribution of water So the

current strategic isn't working

according to the you It's

working, it's getting - -

- Only in some places I think

it can work better. We're

suggesting that maybe it's time

to pull oup up the bye back in

the specific districts, use the

bye back in other areas where

there's private ownership, et

cetera, but not in these

districts Do you think Tony

Abbott was on the wrong path

when he said the money spent

should be deferred I wouldn't

agree with that. I think the

bye back should proceed but in

a more strategic fashion Is the

Government listening to the

concerns that you've

raised Tony Abbott made some

comments -- Tony Bourke made some comments in question time

today. I want to see the

Hansard on what he said, I

think they were fairly positive remarks After Mr Burke's

statement in question time

Barnaby Joyce sent out a

release calling on him to make

it clear whether kuls ri

acquisition of the assets of

Australian farmers is a threat

he meant to make. Is that a

scenario that you could ever see happening in this country?

No, and Barnaby knows it, some

of his nonsense that comes out

occasionally, Tony turk didn't

say that at all. The Government

has no intepgs of doing that,

as I understand the five

governments that signed this

document, including Barnaby

Joyce when he had the balanceS

of power in the Senate, when

John Howard started this

project, five governments and

oppositions have greed to a

process and compulsory

acquisition isn't any part of

it One of those state

government is likely to be a

new premier in bare yes O'Farrell. What's your advice

to him I know Barry quite well:

I'd be surprised if he walked

away from this, he may, that's

an option, any one of the

states could. Victoria could

have too, I don't think they

are. I think people, what this

issue volume fd -- solved, I

don't think they want to go

down the nonsense road for

blaming the act for everything

that happened. People who think

about this issue want a

solution-driven a gend darks

rather than trying to find a

new problem every day of the

week Do you think we're on

track in terms of the time line

of actually coming up with a

final plan? Well, our

committee is performing very

well. It's looking into the

soerb yo economics, some of the

solutions that are out there. I

think we can move our

timetable, I think with the

appointment of Craig noels, the

authority might get back on the

track a little bit, hopefully

there can be an outcome. I

think the attitude of everybody

is changing including the

people in the basin, they were

frightened, quite kind quite

rightly bi the authority, the P

R was a disaster. I think

there's a number of people both within the Government and

outside it that are actually

holding their hands through

this now. There is a solution

to this, not rocket science,

not about people losing their

liver hoods, having been water

stolen, Joyce has been creating

fear in the minds of people,

they think that is what is

going to happen, the water

taken away from them, nowhere

in that agreement, nowhere, no

groft, none of the states, not

the Commonwealth, John Howard

didn't say it, barn knee voted

for that act, if he can find

compulsory acquisition in the

Act he should point it

out Coming up next texts rise

as the coalition suffers from

more damaging leaks, Catherine

Murphy and Steve Louise will

join me next to look at that

and more. Stay with us.

Welcome back, it's half past

the hour. Let's go to Susanne

Latimore now, with the latest

news headlines. The Government has introduced into government

its flood measures including

the controversial levy. The

Prime Minister has won the

support of the two independents

who said they will vote for the

multi million plan. Negotiations will continue

ahead of the next parliamentary

sitting the week after next. An

inquiry into Queensland's

deadly floods has gun. The

judicial inquiry has been told

the short-term goal is to make

the state safer for next

summer. It will probe issues

around the flooding. The

inquiry will last about a year,

in that time public hearings

will be held right across

Queensland. Significant inroads

have been made today for one of

the government's key election

promises. A landmark deal has

been struck between Telstra and

the NBN Co allowing the National Broadband Network to

move foor. Key commercial terms

have been finalised paving the

way for an agreement on using

Telstra's assets to roll out

the network. The approval

also needs approval from ACCC.

NBN legislation is yet to pass

through parliament. Telstra

will put a vote to shareholders

in July. Protesters in care row

are showing no signs of backing

down after setting up permanent

camp in the city's main scare,

also stilg for Golgol Mebrahtu

to stand down. -- the president

dent to stand down. The sport

despite suffering with injury

himself Ricky Ponting says the

selectors made the right call

when they left mic mus ri out

of the squad. Ponting backed

the tough call from selectors,

the skipper also admitted he is

still suffering some discomfort

from his finger fracture. The

weather, warm in the southeast,

storms in the North. Joining me

now, our panel of jufrn lifts,

Catherine Murphy from the age

and Steve Lewis from the herald

sun. The telegraph flood levy,

this week, Bob Catter and tone

crook, Tony Windsor wasn't

giving much away. Earlier today

we heard sop of the

independents. It makes no sense

to take the action to climate

programs I haven't made a

decision I think this whole

flood package is in a very

political context Let's get the

right package for Queenslanders, Victorians and

Australia, rather than the

right political package for the

moment Catherine at the enof

this first week do you think

either side is winning the debate Certainly the Prime

Minister's performance in

question time today was very

solid, very pumped, very

confident, making Sol pretty sharp arguments why a flood

levy was a better way to go.

Personally I toept know why

Tony Abbott investing capital

in having this discussion. You

know, I think there's been a

major disaster, people standing

in the ruins of it, you know,

people in Queensland aren't

going to be thanking anybody in

Canberra for having an ah cane

discussion about a levy versus

a bunch of kind of thrown

together cuts, I actually can't

understand why he's going down

this path rather than signing

up to the levy then criticising

any bodgie implementation. You

know, certainly the Prime

Minister was strong today, but

Abbott's prosecuting it hard,

they threw everybody at them in

question time various credit

teeks of the argument I guess

it's an immediate reaction, too

easy to get into this, it

weighs into that whole great

big tax narrative Sure, have an

argument about great big new

taxes, that's a defining argument for Tony Abbott,

that's solid ground for the

coalition to be on. I think

when you get into the natural

disaster space, I'm not saying

you can't have a political discussion about the best

response to that, on significance should have that,

but I just don't think he immediated to pick this

fight Looking like he's poll

tit sizing this too much This

as this is a case where Julia

Gillard was struggling when the

levy was announced talked

about, it speculated about. At

the time there were a numb

Labor MPs who were pretty

nervous, with the outer suburbs

of the big cities with the

Labor battlers. You heard

Christina Keneally who is about

to be turfed out, the people of western Sydney struggle to pay

the levy, it was difficult sell

for Julia Gillard, Tony Abbott

was basically exploiting those

concerns. I think Tony Abbott

over the past week tripped

himself up, with the absolute

bad handling, he was not reaped

to be contrite, say sorry, it

took Joe Hockey which the

number of MPs see as the

alternative leader to Tony

Abbott, to say a straightforward sorry, we

stuffed up, on Monday. I think

Tony Abbott has had a very bad

week of course with the after

math of Mark Reilly's story on Channel 7 Tony Abbott has

looked the one under pressure.

I agree with Catherine that

Gillard looked strong, she

looks as though she thinks sthe

is starting to win this battle.

I would expect that Windsor and

Oakeshott in the end will

support it. But remember

Oakeshott and Windsor are both

very strong on the need for

something more permanent and

they have got -- this is their

one and only opportunity, one

and only chance to get some

sort of natural disaster fund

up and running. If they sign up

to this without some pledge

from Gillard to seriously

examine that more fool them and

it will be betrayal,

particularly for Windsor who

has been advocating it for 15

years of what is being talked

about Do you agree the

independents will fall into

line with the government? You

wouldn't predict how these guys

will go. The trend feels like

it's going the Government's

ways Still a problem in the

Senate, they've got to get

Xenophon and Fielding, who

knows what they're likely to

do Certainly the Government's

landing its arguments better,

there's been some fragmentation

on the coalition side on this

theme and also on other

teams. The chrie lone on top of

the floods, it helped the

Government's caused. You

mentioned Tony Abbott's l alternative plan we saw

earlier, there was a lot of

debate over the foreign aid

cuts to Indonesian schools, saw

some leaks earlier in the week

that Julie Bishop convinced

hymn to the to aid the aid to

southern Africa. She was

furious about the cut to

Indonesia as well She's been

devastated by Mr Abbott as

insistence that the program be

sacrificed, furthermore she

believed she had already won

the heated debate on foreign

aid, understood to have been lk

I am broild with an intensive

late night argument he insisted

on deferring the Indonesian

skills program. The problem for

the leader of the opposition is

the deputy of the opposition is

light on this, absolutely

right. Catherine the fact

you're even seeing these leaks

is it suggested to you there's

trouble in the top at the

coalition iflt all very odd in

the coalition, sort of

certainly the coalition being

the story in this fashion, you

know with division and dissent

and different ideas being

prosecuted and so forth, no,

that's not a great look for

Abbott, not a great look for

them when they're trying to

prosecute a different political

argument, no, it hasn't been a

terrific week, all to do with

jostling for advancement, sort

of internal leadership ambitions, people positioning

themselves in various

arguments, but it's been a

pretty scrappy look The cuts to

foreign aid in particular,

pretty well, though, on

talkback radio, do you think it

was smart politically No doubt

our 4.5 billion foreign aid

program has a lot of waste and

miss management, the scheme

that the coalition has targeted

is by all accounts a pretty

sensible scheme and it's

funding good work up in Indonesia, criticisms of of it

of late, if you're going to go

after the foreign aid budget

you should be looking at rationing back some of the aid

to Africa. Putting all that to

one side I think what we have

seen from the coalition, their

response, it does suggest it's

quite splil and quite tough.

I've been told that the Abbott

Julie Bishop confrontation were

very very willing, both said

things I think they'll probably

now regret to each other, so it

is pretty -- even some of the

liberal MPs suggesting that

Abbott was calling for Bishop

to resign, I don't think that's

correct, there are some MPs going around suggesting that,

it does suggest that the

coalition is not a particularly

happy place right at the

minute. As Catherine said it

does suggest there are people

angling for their own

leadership ambitions or trying

to get further up, speculation

about whether Chris pine is

angling for Julie Byrne shop's

job as deputy leader which he

is firmly denying, so it must

be untrue, so it does suggest

the coalitions's got some reel

internal problems Playing out

on policy issues too, there's

the spectrum of views in the

coalition on various policy

things, not all personality,

but it does have the element of

personality, ambition and

tension and drama Not at news

limb theed but at the age Of

course, when you add that in

with the Mark Reilly stuff, it

hasn't been a good start for the parliamentary year. The

Government a thounsed Tim Flannery the former Australian

of the year will be heading up

this new government funded

independent climate change

commission and Tim Flannery obviously is defending his role

in this, he's saying he's not

there to splufrng government

policy I think the Government's

sort of saying, oh -- it's

obviously very solid

appointment, who can criticise

Tim Flannery, that's great.

It's about the Government's

wanting to present this

impression of progress and momentum on climate change

which is obviously an important

issue for them, and a huge

policy issue in year, but good

luck keeping Tim Flannery in a box, don't put baby in the

corner. It also comes a few

days after Julia Gillard cut

how much with the carbon

abatement programs did she cut

in order to fund the flood

program the carbon capture

storage fund was a pretty bad

fund. If we can't get carbon

capture and storage sorted out

how else are you going to

provide clean power in

Australia They were pretty bad

programs That's a whole other

debate. I put that to Tim

Flannery, he was very careful

not to weigh in that Knew

Co Not knew Co, we didn't cover

that. Finally, this weekend the

meeting has been brought back

to Sunday so the leaders can

attend the funeral of Atkinson,

this Sunday, what are you

expecting a nice healthy event

at the end of it which is going

to be overridden once Barry

O'Farrell gets in? Certainly

from some comments from Colin

Barnett made today Julia

Gillard is making a bit of

progress on the health front

perhaps that can finally be

directed. The whole dynamic of

Coag is going to change.

Barnett was welcoming a couple

of friends at the table today.

That will change the complex of

that as a body Of course we

heard Barry O'Farrell say he's

not into Co err sieve federal

lism. It will be interesting to

see how he behaviours,

remembering that the last

Victorian premier Brumby only

signed on at the 11 and a

half-hour, it's going to be

very interesting to see how it

plays out on Sunday. Even if

they do get a deal you've got a

change of government in six

weeks time Serious changes to

the proposed health reforms, a

key part of Kevin Rudd's

agenda, can Julia Gillard walk

away with hands clean It's sort

of -- the develop's in the

detail really -- the Devil is

in the deta. We have got to see

how it all washes through,

Steve says the role of Victoria

is very critical over the

weekend in whether this gets

nailed or not. There are some

positive signs for Gillard, but

let's just wait and see, let's

see how it all pans out. Look

forward to that, full coverage

on Sky News on Sunday, Steve

Lewis and Catherine. Thank you.

Coming up next that interview

with Tim Flannery. Stay with us.

Welcome back. Today Tim

Flannery was announced as the

new head of the -- the chair of

the government's new climate

change chigs commission, tasked

with explaining the science to

Australians as the Government

grapples on how to put a price

on carbon. I spoke to the

former Australian of the year

earlier. Tim Flannery thank you

for your time. We also have the

multi climate change committee.

Why do we need another body trying to sell it The

Commission has got a bit of a

different job, not really to

sell climate change really.

Our brief is to do three

things, one is to lead a

discussion with the Australian

public and community about

climate science, I think

there's still a lot of

misunderstandings out there, it

will be important as we come up

through this year to get a

better understanding of what the scientists are actually

saying, there's a lot of misunderstanding about the

state of the international

negotiations what countries are

actually doing over sees, part

of our brief is to led a

discussion on that, thirdly we

need to think a bit more as a community about the options

before us, in terms of the

climate chal ej, they range

from adaptation, adapting to

particular changes through to a

carbon price, we need better

public understanding of those

options Of course there are

climate skepics, are you going

to be involving some of those

people about discussions Happy

to talk to anyone, anyone and ,

could I say we're all sceptics,

I'm a scientists which are

first and foremost sceptics

it's what we do, question

everything, it's not a question

of believe for us in terms of

climate change, it's a question

of rigorously assessing the

data, the best climate science around the world does just

that This is a two-year appointment for you. Julia

Gillard has said 2011 is the

year of decision and delivery,

how long do you thifrg it might

take for Australia to have a

carbon price up and running?

Well, that's a great question,

and it's a difficult one for me

to answer because I can't see

into the future, but our target

for our commitments is Twenty20, that's only nine

years off now, every year we

delay this of course it makes

it harder and harder to meet that international pledge that

we have made, that target we

have set ourselves, so in some

ways the sooner the better for

all of us then you don't have

the huge costs of doing things

very quickly Do you think that

Australia also has lost so much

time because of the delays we

have seen, the Government lost

its nerve a couple of years

ago, Kevin Rudd was backing

away from that, that is all

history now, how much do you

think Australia will have to

bear the cost of that of

course, how much do you think

that's cost us? That's hard to

evaluate, there's no doubt that addressing climate change

involves a cost, which is

really an investment in our

future. The sooner we deal with

it, the sooner we come to a

landing on what the most cost

effective way of doing that is

the better off we will be There

has been a lot of debate about

what sort of compensation packages might be wrapped into

a price on carbon. Is it your

view that a carbon price is

just necessarily regardless of

what sort of compensation

packages there are, a

comparative bon price with

perhaps generous compensation

packages will be better than

nothing at all To have a sustainable carbon rise, this is something that has to go

into the future, you have to

deal with issues, my personal

view I think the view of the

government -- you have to deal

with issues of social equity

and structural adjustment, you

can't hang people out to dry,

when the any enduring policy is

going to have elements in it,

in addressing disadvantage, how

we make sure those who are

least able to pay for any price

increases are justly dealt with

and compensated. Trade exposed

industries is another area, we

need to somehow deal with that,

there are structural adjustment issues around industries that

may be disadvantaged or have to

change their nature as time

goes on. The only enduring

reform is going to be one that

addresses all of those

issues In order to get public

opinion on side a lot of

education is necessary. How

do you go about doing, that

there was a lot of criticism

focused on the Government, it

simply failed to sell climate

change, sell its policies

properly over the last year of

years We're not selling

anything on behalf of the

government, we're an independent commission. Our

brief is to go out there,

engage with the public in terms

of climate science. My personal

view is I wish the commission

would fit into my tinny and I

could go around the Murray

darling and other places,

meeting with people, wheeling

have to see how much of that is

practical, I think community

engagement does involve a bit

of face-to-face stuff. We're

part way through our first

meeting, but clearly we have

got a big job ahead of us It's

something funded by the

Government, 5 million dollars

of taxpayer's money is going to

set up this Commission,

obviously you've been chosen by

the Government to head this for

a certain reason. Does this

hamstring you at all over the

next year as we see climate

policies being developed to

have an opinion, have a say,

will you be able to be critical of the government's

policies We're an independent

Commission, we are not beHolden by ministerial treks or to the

government in that way, we are

independent. My focus is going

to be on doing this job well, I

think if we can get a better understanding of those key

issues the public will have a

much better chance of getting

some enduring reform that will stand Australia in good

stead We have seen that the

Government did recently dump

some carbon abatement programs

as part of its budget kauts

cuts to help the rebuilding

projects. What's your take on that, we have seen the

independent arguing that was a

real mistake I haven't had a

chance to take all of that on

board. Really, as Chief

Commissioner for the climate

commission I shouldn't be

commenting on those sort of

things we're still getting all

of our ducks in a row Good

luck. We have to get let you

get back to it. Thank you for

your time. The on has released

an agreement not questioning

Tim Flannery's appoint. But questioning the need for the

commission itself, Greg hunt

saying Australians have a good

right to ask what sort of value

for mun yes we're going to get

from the creation of this

commission which is costing 5.6

million to run. Time will only

tell. We are almost out of

time. Before we go John tear

son from Sky News business

channel joins me. It's been a

huge day in terms of tp

company's reporting profits of

course Telstra the really big

one Big day, not necessarily

huge profits for some of these

companies Telstra's net profit

was down more than 35 per cent

to 1.2 billion dollars. It

looks like dire, but the

company actually reported an

increase of bundled customers

of about 420,000 dollars, so significantly chasing market

share. Telstra has also been

aggressively restructuring the organisation, there's been

significant spend to make sure

that happens. The market saw Telstra's share price in

positive territory, we did see

it down about a third of a per

cent as the day's close rolled

from rolled in. Optus reported

via SingTel in Singapore, it

saw cash net profits up 13 per

cent to 514 million dollars.

That was for the nine months

net profit up 2.2 per cent for

the quarter. Pretty good

figures for Optus. When it

comes to result the biggy we're

expecting in about an hour's

time Rio Tinto the mining guy

nt is ex specced to report Nick

Ansell wal profit up around the

9 billion Mark versus 3 billion

the previous year. Those

numbers will come in within the

next year or hour hour or so.

It was up about a third of one

per cent. Some big numbers on

the way, Telstra, show though, not

crash shot Thank you for

that Thanks That is all we have

time Forest this edition of PM

Agenda. The nation will be

hosted. Penny Wong and Chris

pine will be joining him as

guests, make sure you tune in

for that. Thank you for your

company this afternoon, I'm Ashley Gillan.

Live captioning by Ai-Media in. Optus reported via SingTel in Singapore, it saw cash net profits up 13 per cent to 514 million dollars. That was for 2.2 per cent for the quarter. When it comes to result the mining guy nt is ex specced to versus 3 billion the previous in within the next year or hour hour or so. It was up about a third of one per cent. Some big show though, not crash shot Thank you for that Thanks That is all we have time Forest this edition of PM Agenda. The nation will be hosted. Penny Wong and Chris pine will be joining him as guests, make sure you tune in for that. Thank you for your company this afternoon, I'm Ashley Gillan. Live captioning by Ai-Media

in. Optus reported via SingTel in Singapore, it saw cash net profits up 13 per cent to 514 million dollars. That was for the nine months net profit up When it comes to result the mining guy nt is ex specced to year. Those numbers will come in within the next year or hour hour or so. It was up about a

third of one per cent. Some big numbers on the way, Telstra, show though, not crash shot Thank you for that Thanks That is all we have time Forest this edition of PM Agenda. The nation will be hosted. Penny Wong and Chris pine will be joining him as guests, make sure you tune in for that. Thank you for your company this afternoon, I'm Ashley Gillan. Live captioning by Ai-Media