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(generated from captions) Thank you very much for that, Nate. Shall I own up?Stop it now. This is the last time he's going to do it.I promise. Last time. It's so much fun.What's in your pocket? I can hear them rattling. I'll get into real trouble. Let's return to the Four Corners investigation into the integrity of the Murray-Darling Basin plan. South Australian greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young is calling for a Senate inquiry into the matter.She joins us now from our Adelaide newsroom. Sarah Hanson-Young, good morning. Thanks for joining us.Good morning. Thank you for having me. The allegations aired last not on -- night on Four Corners about the Murray-Darling Basin plan, allegations and accusations of water being misused, improperly pumped away, and whether the Murray-Darling plan itself was being undermined. What's your response?Look, I think this is, um, a shocking set of allegations. Really, $13 billion of taxpayers' money, years and years of planning to put in place a national strategy to manage the Murray-Darling Basin, to get all of the states to buy in, the Federal Government to oversee it, to establish an independent authority to manage it all and it's now being rorted, abused and undermined. Of course, I'm a senator from South Australia, so this is something that's very close to my heart and very close to all South Australians. We've lived for years at the bottom end of the Murray and we thought after all this time that finally, um, perhaps there would be a fair set of rules, where people would use the water fairly, the environment would get what it needed so that the river would survive. The fact that we've heard allegations that people are illegally pumping more water out of the river that was paid for by taxpayers to be returned to the environment is just unthinkable. Look, I just...We need a full investigation...I want to jump in there. You mention a full investigation and you're calling for a Senate inquiry and we heard some of those angry people as well this morning on our report saying they'd like to see a royal commission as well. Isn't it simply a matter of actually getting compliance in this place? You've got regulators. You've got oversight of this. You've got investigators in place. The matter just simply needs to be analysed and oversighted in the correct way and then we don't have to spend even more public money on expensive inquiries and the like?Well, I think there's two things here, Virginia. Clearly, um, any illegal action needs to be investigated by the appropriate thords -- - authorities...And to jump in there, I apologise for jumping in but the authorities are in place to do that...Well, they need to get on... Do it...They need to get on and do it. We need a cop on the beat who has the ability to actually pull these people into line. But also, of course - and the reason why I think the Parliament needs to be investigating this - is because it was the Federal Parliament who signed off on the Murray-Darling Basin plan when it was finalised. We have a responsibility to even a watchful eye on what is going on. These allegations have now come about. It is our job to look at what's going on and make sure the cop on the beat is doing their job. Of course, the other element of all of this is none of these allegations would have come about if we didn't have a brave whistleblowers and we saw some of them on the television last night. There's others out there who are, um, worried about coming forward, given their roles in various government agencies and departments. And of course the industry itself. A parliamentary inquiry would give them the cover of parliamentary privilege to get more evidence to ensure we can fix this. Time is tight this morning, Senator, but finally and briefly, do you believe that all of this - and particularly what we learned last night apparently about some aspects of the New South Wales Government wanting to exit this plan - that this all has the capacity and possibility of unravelling the Murray-Darling Basin plan altogether?Look, I think that's right and, um, what we need today urgently is a strong statement from the Water Minister, Barnaby Joyce, and the Prime Minister, to say they are committed to return the plan to the water that the river needs to survive. If we don't get that today, we'll see further unravelling of this process and we can't afford it here in South Australia. We're at the bottom end of the river. We need the require to be -- river to be living in order for the life blood of our cities, our towns and our