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Political Correspondent David Lipson rides shotgun with Jacqui Lambie in our latest 'Poll Position' -

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EMMA ALBERICI, PRESENTER: Clive Palmer's short career as a member of Parliament may be over, but one of his former PUPs, Jacqui Lambie, believes her work in Canberra has only just begun. Opinion polls suggest the Tasmanian senator will be returned to the Upper House along with her unique brand of politics. For this week's poll position, political correspondent David Lipson rode shotgun with Senator Lambie as she drove to a formal dinner in Launceston and discovered her bark can be worse than her bite.

DAVID LIPSON, POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Jacqui Lambie, good to see you.



JACQUI LAMBIE: Jesus, I coulda made use of ya, mate. (Laughs)

DAVID LIPSON: You're driving on Poll Position. Where are we going?

JACQUI LAMBIE: We're going through to Devonport. I've got to pick somebody up and then we're going to the University of Tasmania. They're having a dinner this - tonight. So, that's what we're doing.

DAVID LIPSON: You look fabulous. Let's hit it.

JACQUI LAMBIE: Thank you. Gotta love the locals.

DAVID LIPSON: So this is Burnie, your hometown.

JACQUI LAMBIE: This is Burnie, yep.

DAVID LIPSON: What's it like living here?

JACQUI LAMBIE: Just got a new Cotton On store now.

DAVID LIPSON: OK. It's all happening in Burnie. What's it like living in Burnie?

JACQUI LAMBIE: Um, it's great. I used to live about 30 minutes down the road. I was actually - I grew up in Devonport and then I moved to Burnie about five years ago. So ...

DAVID LIPSON: How has the last three years changed the way the locals look at you, relate to you?

JACQUI LAMBIE: They were pretty good. They seen change and thought, "This is great." Obviously I was - that last few months leading into the election, I joined Palmer United. And that sorta give them a hope that someone new was coming in, there was someone - a new party, it was fresh, it was going to deliver. That was really short-lived, obviously. That first six months was hell, I'll be honest. And that - that was really hard for me personally too because it got to the point towards that end of that first six months where people in Burnie had actually just got to the point where I think they'd given up on me. They actually stopped - they wouldn't even look me in the eye. I had people swearing at me in the street and ...

DAVID LIPSON: What were they angry about?

JACQUI LAMBIE: Um, I think they were angry because they were disappointed that, first of all, PUP didn't deliver and it was very chaotic and I probably wasn't - I wasn't helping the situation. I wasn't making very good decisions under the guidance of Clive Palmer. So that was really, really difficult. But yeah, they've come around, they've gave me another chance, God bless 'em. The biggest rewards I get is being able to help people that are what I call the underdog. Whereas they've only got a little voice 'cause they're not - there's not a majority of them. And you can go out there and make certain phone calls or, you know, sorta get right down the minister's throat and say, "Can you please do something about this before I start getting bloody wild?"

DAVID LIPSON: One of the times that we saw so clearly that raw passion and emotion was when your son Dylan was in trouble. How's Dylan going?

JACQUI LAMBIE: He's doing extraordinarily well. He - I laughed when I was talking to him Tuesday night. I said "Oh, mate, you've done really, really well. You know, you should be really proud of yourself, you've done six months now." And he said "No, I haven't; I've done 29 weeks, but who's counting?" You know. But he's doing really well.

DAVID LIPSON: (Laughs) So you're talking and you're getting on well ...

JACQUI LAMBIE: Oh, yeah, yeah.

DAVID LIPSON: ... because it was pretty rough there for a while when you went public.

JACQUI LAMBIE: Oh, look, it was only rough for about three weeks.


JACQUI LAMBIE: Yeah, yeah, three or four weeks.

DAVID LIPSON: But he was pretty angry at the time, wasn't he?

JACQUI LAMBIE: Blood's thicker than water. Yeah, that's 'cause he was iced off his head, probably.

DAVID LIPSON: Do you think that he could have been saved had you not been a senator?



JACQUI LAMBIE: Yeah, I don't think if I'd had my title I would have been able to save Dylan.

DAVID LIPSON: So what was different? The fact you were in Parliament?

JACQUI LAMBIE: Oh, I think because a lot of people reached out to me. Because a lot of people reached out to me when I told my story about Dylan and I was able to pick and choose and say, "Yeah, OK, can you guys give me a hand?"

DAVID LIPSON: You're also very passionate about involuntary detox. Explain that. How does that work?

JACQUI LAMBIE: Yep. So, with mums and dads, I believe that they should have the power to involuntary detox their kids.

DAVID LIPSON: Force them into detox?

JACQUI LAMBIE: Force them into detox. Yeah, 'cause when they're on ice, mate, trust me, take it from somebody who knows, you can't negotiate with somebody that's on ice, you can't bargain with 'em. You actually can't do anything with 'em. You're walking around like you're on eggshells.

DAVID LIPSON: How do you force a teenager to do something like that? It's hard enough to get them to do the washing up.

JACQUI LAMBIE: Yeah - yeah, you can't. That's why I'm saying: there needs to be laws that are introduced.


JACQUI LAMBIE: And we can't do it, um, ...

DAVID LIPSON: What, similar to mental health laws? You lock 'em up?

JACQUI LAMBIE: Yep, there's already the Mental Health Act, yeah, where you can involuntarily do that with your children, even though they've to go through a fair rigmarole with that as well. You gotta get GPs and all that sort of stuff in. You would still have to have a checking system to be able to do with this with your kids, but it certainly needs to be looked at. The problem is as much as we tried as hard as what we could on a national scale to roll that right out, it goes against the Constitution. Go figure.

DAVID LIPSON: You mentioned you were a bit of a rat bag as a kid. What's the worse thing you ever did?

JACQUI LAMBIE: Who said that?

DAVID LIPSON: I read it in an article.

JACQUI LAMBIE: You've been talking to my bloody mother.

DAVID LIPSON: I may have been, I may have been.

JACQUI LAMBIE: (Laughs) I don't think I've told this story, so I'll tell it to you'll. I remember - this was when I was about 17 though I think. I mighta been 16, but I was at a party and we were all freezing and there was a woodpile next door along the fence and we had no wood, so, you know, few glasses of passion pop and I'm like, "Hey, I'll go and get some wood from next door," right? So off I go, get on the woodpile and I woke up with police standing over me because I'd fallen off the woodpile and knocked myself out. So I hadn't even got the wood. So, ...

DAVID LIPSON: Wow. From cold to out cold.

JACQUI LAMBIE: Yeah, I had to go to court for that too, by the way.



DAVID LIPSON: What was the charge?

JACQUI LAMBIE: Um, I think it was ...

DAVID LIPSON: Theft of wood? (Laughs)

JACQUI LAMBIE: No, not theft of wood. Drinking under age I think was one of them and something else, so - but the magistrate was very good and give me a slap across the wrist and said, "Off you go. Get moving. I don't want to see you in here again." That scared the hell out of me, I'll be honest.

DAVID LIPSON: Speaking to you now, you seem like a real softie, but on telly you often come out as being quite ferocious. How does that play out? Are there two different Jacqui Lambies?

JACQUI LAMBIE: Oh, I think there's the - you know, the underdog Jacqui Lambie who gets it and feels it. And I think to fight for the underdog, you have to go in hard and fast 'cause they've actually been forgotten about. But, you know, what did you call me: soft? What did you say I was?

DAVID LIPSON: I said you seem like a bit of a softie, speaking to you here in the car.


DAVID LIPSON: Is that wrong?

JACQUI LAMBIE: I don't know. Yeah, you're absolutely killing my image, I'll be honest.


JACQUI LAMBIE: Jesus, don't go telling them that in Parliament. That'll be the end of me.

DAVID LIPSON: Alright. Just between you, me and the eight cameras here.


DAVID LIPSON: Do you see yourself as a feminist?

JACQUI LAMBIE: Ohh, I really hate that word.


JACQUI LAMBIE: I really just hate it.

DAVID LIPSON: Why do you hate it?

JACQUI LAMBIE: I just don't like it. I don't like to - I don't like to play the men off against the women and things like that. And I think that - I don't really care, I'm actually really competitive, by the way, so if you put me up against one of the blokes, I want to win. I want to kick their arse - I'll be honest.


JACQUI LAMBIE: Right? So, um - but it's never really bothered me. I don't care what your makeup is between your legs. If I want something, then I'm gonna just come for it. And if you're standing in my way, I'm going to move you or go over the top of you. Simple as that.



DAVID LIPSON: Are you confident that you'll be back in the Senate in a few weeks' time?

JACQUI LAMBIE: Do you know what? I actually - I haven't even - the good thing is 'cause I'm so busy, I haven't even had time to think about it. And I just - I just hope I've had enough time to be able to show people that I do have potential and if they could just give me another couple of years and let me really heat up, that'd be great! Let me loose.

DAVID LIPSON: (Laughs) I thought you already had been let loose.

JACQUI LAMBIE: (Laughs) Oh, no, no, no, no. Absolutely not.

DAVID LIPSON: There's more.

JACQUI LAMBIE: There's more.

DAVID LIPSON: There's much more.


DAVID LIPSON: The mind boggles. OK, Jacqui, I've asked you to choose a song. What have you chosen for us?

JACQUI LAMBIE: Oh, I've chosen Bad to the Bone.

DAVID LIPSON: Well. I can only imagine why.


(Song Bad to the Bone by George Thorogood plays)

DAVID LIPSON: So why is this song appropriate for you?

JACQUI LAMBIE: I think it's this song. I think because this is - I think this is when we were running around in the Army and you've got your M60, you know, and you're all ammoed up, you're ready to go, and this is actually played a lot. It really gets the blood running and the adrenaline rushing and, you know, so it's sort of, um ...

DAVID LIPSON: Are you gonna belt out a few lines?

JACQUI LAMBIE: And I think - I don't even know the words to it, to be honest. It's been that bloody long.

DAVID LIPSON: Come on! Let me help you out. (Singing) B-B-B-B-Bad, B-B-B-B-Bad. (Talking) You're not singing!

JACQUI LAMBIE: (Singing) ... to the bone. (Talking) I don't even know the words. How bad's that?

DAVID LIPSON: That is B-B-B-B-Bad.

JACQUI LAMBIE: I know! I know it's B-B-B-B-Bad. (Singing) Bad to the bone.

DAVID LIPSON: Very nice. ... Can I stop for a quick coffee?

JACQUI LAMBIE: Yeah, we'll grab a quick coffee, yeah. I'm running out of time.

DAVID LIPSON: Recharge the batteries.

JACQUI LAMBIE: Yeah. ... Got my sandshoes on.

DAVID LIPSON: Look at it! Look at it!

JACQUI LAMBIE: I used to have my slippers on, but I've got these blokes following me, so I thought I'd better not.