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(generated from captions) good morning to Vanessa O'Hanlon.Good morning, a very hot day in Brisbane, about 8 degrees above average: Now the Minister for resources, energy and Northern Australia Josh Frydenberg joins us now from Parliament House to look forward to the parliamentary year. Josh Frydenberg, good morning.Nice to be with you, Virginia.The Government's talking points were leaked almost immediately after they hit Coalition in boxes so on a 1 to 10 scale of disunity, where would you rank that act?There has been leaked talks points by both sides over the years.That's my point.Yes, it's not uncommon.The divisions of the past and obviously we had a limp change last year, we've all got to move on from that.We've got an election to fight this year.Malcolm Turnbull has had a fantastic start as PM, you've seen that reflected in the polls, he has made some very positive announcements, had some positive overseas trips and now we are getting on with the job of governing in this election year.You say we've all got to move on from that. Why can't you?Well, I can, andWhen I say you, I mean your government. Why can't your government move on from that?I dispute the premise of your question.I this I we have morphed on from that.No, that doesn't logically follow. We were just discussing the leaked talking points. You acknowledged you had a difficult year, but now we have to move on from that to avoid this kind of stuff, but you haven't. Why is that?There are many people in the partyroom.Obviously some are disgruntled but that is not any different to what the Labor caucus is like.I can't stop everybody or somebody might leak some talking points, but I don't think that reflects a broader sense of disunity in the Government at all.I think there is a I great deal of focus in this election year and I think we are very buoyant.We are looking ahead with great confidence.Today we are talking about industrial relations and the Australian Building and Construction Commission and the importance of productivity and innovation, tax reform to the Australian economy - there is a busy agenda, and Malcolm Turnbull has the confidence of the partyroom and certainly has the confidence of the Australian people.Just one more on this, why has Malcolm Turnbull not been able to apiece or at least constrain the resentment of the pro-Abbott forces, why do you think that is?Look, we can go back and look at the past.Josh Frydenberg, I'm very much talking about the present. This example of the leaked talking points is a perfect example of that. Why do you think he has not been able to apiece those forces?I don't think you would want to make more of that than it really is, Virginia.I'm sure you wouldn't want me to.Yeah, that's right, and I don't think your listeners do because I don't think that matters to their pay cheques at the end of the week, whether they can meet the mortgage bills, whether their kids can go the a good education or whether the health services are right when they get sick.They are the important things to listeners, not the internal match nations of a party.Do you think Tony Abbott should go?Tony Abbott has a major contribution still to make to public life.He is obviously very experiencend and there is room in our party for Tony Abbott.At the same time I've said publicly he is not coming back to being PM.Malcolm Turnbull has made it very clear he is not coming back into the Cabinet and we just get on with the job of government.So, on the issue of IR reform, part of that of course is your strong attack on the Government - on the Opposition, I'm sorry, and its leader and his link to the union movement. In those talking points there is clear linking and targeting of Bill Shorten. Why would you do that when Bill Shorten of course has escaped any adverse finding by the Trade Union Royal .I
Commission and Dyson Heydon? .I think it's important to understand that the royal commission was an investigation into the lawlessness and corruption across the union movement and the building industry, and these were findings of fact by one of Australia's most distinguished jurists.This is not about Bill Shorten, this is not P- a particular union, this is...Just to jump in, those talking points make it very, very clear that you need to personally link all of that to Bill Shorten even while he was cleared by Dyson Heydon?Look, Bill Shorten was called to account for the behaviour of the AWU, a body he had led and with the Cleanevent case, there were real questions to be answered about penalty rates and the trading off of those penalty rates for other benefits of the union.That has been looked a the in detail by Dyson Heydon and the royal commission, but I this I there is a broader point here, Virginia, and that is we've had this royal commission, the second of its kind - we had a Cole royal commission - both have found we need an effective cop on the boo et when it comes to the construction industry and that's the Australian building and construction organisation.That produced a $6 billion annual productivity dividend for the Australian economy.That's good news for jobs and that's good news for families and fork workers, if you can actually have an ee nextive cop on the beat. And what Dyson Heydon found waas that there was a culture of lawlessness that was widespread and deep-seated.Now, that troubles not just me, but more broadly troubles the Australian people, and that's why we need to act on those findings, and trying to bring back the ABCC.Now, the a double dissolution triggerWell, if it doesn't get passed by the Senate, then it is a double dissolution trigger.Is that the Government's thinking at this stage?The PM has made it clear he wants his government to run full term and that's his expectation.Sorry to move you on so quickly, but what constitutes full-term, what's the sense of that have, which month?I think the PM has said in the third quarter of this year is his expectation, but these things are flexible.It is the prerogative of the PM in terms of the timing of the election, but right now we've got a lot of legislation that we want to pass before the Parliament, but the ABCC is important because it does produce a better outcome for the Australian people, and it does deal with this culture of lawlessness which one of our distinguished jurists found exists within the union movement and the broader construction sector.Scott Morrison appears to be edging closer to all but confirming an increase in the GST. Would that be much part of a broader taxation reform approach, or the GST on its own?Again, there is a lot of water to go under the bridge here because we are having this conversation with the Australian people,s we welcome the role that the State leaders have made, whether it's Jay Weatherill or Labor - a Labor State Premier who has called for an increase in the GST, or Mike Baird, the NSW Coalition State Premier.That must give you some comfort then, edging towards an increase in the GST?Well, I think it is a welcomed change to have a broad debate without the rule-in, rule-out scenarios early on.The PM has made it very clear, this is about getting a more efficient and effective tax system.It is not about raising taxes because obviously people don't want that and that's not good news for the economy either.It is about getting the tax mix right, so for the same amount of revenue that you can produce, what's the most ficialt form of taxation? And there is growing globalisation, growing digitalisation, that's changing our economy, and therefore we are forced to re-assess the nature of our taxation system.And do we have the right balance between income tax and company tax, whether indirect taxes such as the GST are very important as well, so I think there will be a broad suite of tax reform rs that the PM and the Treasurer will take to the next election, but certainly that package hasn't been finalised.And you're a new father yourself. How do you justify to yourself the Australian Government potentially sending 37 babies back to Nauru as the High Court will consider tomorrow?Look, these are issues that the Immigration Minister Peter button will have more to say about in due course, but these are very, very difficult issues.And you all have personal responsibility and moral responsibility in that given you are all members of that Government.Sure.Do you struggle justifying that to yourself personally?Well, I tell you what really obviously upset me and upset many people were the tragic pictures we saw over recent years of people losing their lives at sea.Now, through the strong measures that we've taken, less people have made that perilous voyage to Australia and obviously less lives that have been lost.The other thing that I am proud of as a government that we have achieved is removing kids from detention and obviously those numbers were extremely high in previous years.We've brought that down very quickly through the good work of our Immigration Ministers, whether it was Scott Morrison and later Peter Dutton, but there is still some way to go, but we've achieved a dramatic reduction in the number of children.So certainly under 100 children that are still left in detentionalAs far as I'm concerned one child in detention is one child too many, but I know the Government is absolutely committed to remorphing all children from detention.-To removing all children from detention.Josh Frydenberg, we will talk to you again. Thanks so much.Now, Indigenous journalist Stan Grant has been in the spotlight recently after his speech on racism went viral just before Australia Day.Now he has revealed he might harbour some degree of political ambition.Here is what he said when asked about a possible career in politics on last night's 'Q & A'. Yes, I would consider some thing. Is that in my thoughts? Yes, it is in my thoughtsFederal politics? It is in my thoughts, but it is just a thought.Stan, federal politics? Federal politics, potentially advocacy, potentially staying in the media and continuing to do what I do. In some way having an obligation to the words and honouring the words of that speech. This is a great country and my people still suffer in this country, and if I can make a contribution to that, then I