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The Federal Opposition's environment spokesman Mark Butler says the party is is chance. still considering its position on the Government's plan to scrap the carbon tax. The Government wants to repeal the carbon tax by Christmas. Mr Butler says the Opposition will discuss the proposed legislation over the coming fortnight. But he said those discussions will be framed around the policy that Labor took to the election. He to our political editor Lyndal took Curtis We took to the election a commitment to terminate the Curtis carbon tax. As it happens, on the same date that Tony Abbott intends to terminate the carbon tax on 1 July next year. We also took a commitment that in place of the carbon tax we would put an emissions trading scheme, a scheme carbon scheme that has a legal on carbon pollution and then let's business work out the cheapest and most effective way to operate. That's really the problem with Tony Abbott's position here. They are two sides of the same coin. You can't say you terminate the carbon tax on the one hand, without explaining very clearly to the community what you intend to do to take action on climate change on the other hand.

essentially over
The discussions in Labor, essentially over the tactics whether you - what you do with the carbon tax repeal do with
legislation, and also what you do with the legislation on the Coalition's direct action plan? Well, that's right. We have got eight pieces of legislation. We are still working through, and there is the House of where the Government has a significant majority, obviously, but there is also then the question of how this is dealt with in the Senate. We need to talk to parties, the Greens, for example, about tactics up there. The problem, the that
Abbott's legislation is not tax,
that it terminates the carbon throws the
tax, on 1 July next year, but throws the baby - throws the baby out with the bath water. Also, it gets rid of the idea of there being a legal limit on carbon pollution. This is an utterly critical element of starting to reduce carbon pollution as a country, yet it support
goes. We are not going to support that.Is it, though, a live option, one of the openings being discussed, that you back the repeal of the carbon tax and then seek amend the direct action legislation to put in place what you would like to happen? Well, I'm not going to get into a public discussion about our tactics, because we haven't yet had that discussion at shadow Cabinet and Caucus. Those are the appropriate forums within which to have forums those discussions. I have tried to be as clear as I possibly can that we are not Although
going to buy a big in a poke. Although we support the termination of the carbon tax, we insist that there must be a legal limit on carbon pollution, and there must be a proper mechanism to get to that have been
point. All of the experts that have been interviewed for three years now, we only saw the latest example of this yesterday, have said that they don't think that direct action will achieve the reductions in carbon pollution that Tony Abbott says it will. And it certainly won't do it at the