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Welcome to the program. Tonight - Zoe's Law. A parliamentary stoush to charging
unborn babiesWhen it came to charging the driver, she was just listed with my injuries and I just felt that it was inconsistent. I felt that was more than an

And tree change with Germaine Greer. From women's liberator to rainforest rejuvenator.Here is a floidia seedling. Plus John Doyle, from satire to stage.He acquires greater mass. This Program Is Captioned

A traffic accident four years ago in which a pregnant woman lost her baby has New South Wales Parliament
resulted in a stand-off in the New South Wales Parliament over
the rights of Politicians debated Zoe's Law this week. If passed by both Houses of Parliament, Zoe's Law would give legal status to the foetus but opponents say the law could also wind back the clock on women's reproductive righths and their choose. Among them, the Bar Association and the Australian warning is
Medical Association. Their warning is that this could lead to prosecution for abortion. It was like every other Christmas morning, we opened presents with our 2-year-old. We had breakfast. We were madly wrapping presents for the rest of our family that we were going to see later in the day. I decided since we were going to be in the car for an hour and travelling up to Newcastle that I really just wanted to stretch my legs. But this Christmas morning was not to be the same as any other for the Donegan family. A simple walk ended in tragedy. Brodie Donegan was hit by a mini-van, the driver Justine Hampson had been under the influence of redescription drugs.I probably maybe 20m from my driveway. I vaguely remember hearing a car and I remember kerb.Proceedie Donegan
moving away from the kerb.Proceedie Donegan was hips were badly shattered. was 32 weeks pregnant. When she reached hours later in baby's heart was still beating.I told Nick she had to be called Zoe 'cause Zoe mean the lived F she survived it had to be Zoe.But after an delivered
emergency caesarean, Zoe was delivered still born.She was just like any other newborn. She was very warm and she just looked perfect. She just had her eyes closed. She didn't have any marks on her. A judge sentenced Justine Hampson to a
minimum nine months' jail after she admitted to dangerous driving causing grievous bodily harm. But while Zoe was injuries
regarded in Brodie Donegan's injuries there it was no separate charge relating to her loss. A fact proceedie Donegan found hard to accident, we
accept.Initially, after the accident, we couldn't reconcile why he had a still
register ed a birth to get a still birth could apply for the bereavement bonus which was the form. Baby bonus. We had all these things recognising the separate existence of Zoe then when we went to to charging the driver, she was just listed with my injuries. Anti-abortion campaigner and Upper House MP the Reverend Fred Nile seized on the chance to introduce a Bill named Zoe's Law, which gave rights to a foetus from conception and made serious
it a criminal offence to cause of
serious harm to or destruction of it.It was done without any consultation with me or my family. Or any notification. We didn't want our daughter's name on a law. We were a bit wary of the intentions of. We weren't sure where he wanted to Brodie Donegan and her partner Nick contacted their local MP Chris Spence to try to improve the rights protecting the unborn child. The couple is pro-choice an didn't want Zoe's Law to be turned into an anti-abortion measure.It's quite tightly written. no intention of being applied in areas of abortion or medical procedures, head kal treatment. A assisting pregnant women. It's just to help people that situation to
would've been in the similar situation to me.The process she's gone through, the resulting termination of her pregnancy by someone's criminal act was not matched up at the other end of the scale when 15 months after the event she went to court and Zoe was not recognised as a separate
entity. Under the proposed new law, a person who injures or kills a foetus of at least 20 weeks could be scharjed with grievous bodily harm to the foetus itself. But the changed Bill is still causing alarm.We are tampering with propositions in the criminal law that have stood news good stead for the
decades if not centuries.If the foetus is to be regarded for the purposes of this law as a living person, can the mother make decisions that may result or
in the grievous bodily harm to or the destruction. Foetus being a separate living person.Former DPP boss Nicholas Cowdery has joined a Those
wave of opposition to the Bill. because
Those who say it's unnecessary because laws to protect the the
foetus already exist. And that the proposed law could endanger women's rights.I can see that a provision of this kind might be picked up and used by those who are philosophically opposed of
to the idea of the termination of a pregnancy.The underlying threat from my perspective that women's rights will be devalued because they will be seen not as individuals in their own right through their having
pregnancy, but they will be competing with the rights of the feet tugs. The opposition has come from a broad Bar Association
coalition. The New South Wales Bar Association warns: In way the Bill is written there is at least the possibility that medical practitioners might well found themselves for the conduct of abortions which presently are lawful and able to be carried out.Look he's certainly entitled to his opinion. But there's certainly other barristers, counsel, SC, former Supreme Court judges that disagree with his opinion. this is the thin edge of the wedge.In America there have been instances where the from a certain age has been given legal personhood status and that has led to prosecutions of women in America for abortions and for other acts. The Bill is the first conscience vote for this Parliament, and there's of lobbying going on from the pro-life and pro-choice camps. One MP has told 7.30 New South Wales he's been bombarded with hundreds of emails each week from the pro-life lobby.This Bill is about termination. The Bill is about rolling back a woman's right to choose and about making terminations criminal.The Bill does not have unintended consequences. It is worded precisely to exempt abortion.We're not talking about personhood status to a foetus in the rest of the Crimes Act. It is well and truly contained. Medical procedures are exempt full stop. Anything done by the mother or with the mother's the
consent is exempt. Bear in mind the Queensland law is for a child capable of being born alive that goes further than this proposal for New South Wales. It's expected the private member's Bill will be voted on next week, all the are
evidence so far is that numbers are tight in the Lower House.Whatever the result, I think we should see it through. I think that will bring it some closure in terms of we have tried. Now to a special sbrir with great Australian feminist and author Germaine Greer on a life-changing experience. It started in 2001 when while archive she
looking to house her ex tensive archive she bought an old dairy farm near the New South Wales border but what soon evolved was a decade-long ecological quest of she has written a book, 'White Beech', about her rainforest years to be released next month. Germaine Greer world famous youth Thor of the Female Eunuch took to
is now 74. In 2001, friends took to her the Numinbah valley in the Gold Coast hinterland. biodiversity hot spot close to World Heritage listed National Parks, to her surprise she found her 50 hectare dairy was home to a remnant subtropical rainforest. Instead of bowing to the inevitable she with botanist advice and a paid work force has spent the last 12 years and a lot of her money removing invasive species propagating native vegetation rehabilitating the forest and restoring its biodiversity. I rainforest of the
Spock to Germaine Greer in the rainforest of the royal royal in Sydney. White beech is native to the property you've symbolic
acquired, but it's also symbolic and special to you because you have named your know why.
book after it. Why?I don't know why. The funny thing about that is I woke up in the middle of the night with a name written inside my eyelids. White beech is an even more special timber. It's a rarer tree. It's pickier about where it grows. And it's gorgeous. Now 12 years later and after a massive effort rehabilitation she has documented her experience. The book 'White Beech' is an exposition of Greer's new love of botany or plant science, dense with detail, filing genus and species, also of the property's history from its Indigenous owners to its white pioneers with red cedar cutters and rock quarries and dairying bringing with them invasionive specious ease and weed poison.

(Lists noxious weeds ((You're matd. You're suffering arthritis and what revegetation.Well,
possessed you to take on this doing T
revegetation.Well, I'm not doing T I mean, I've got stalwart and fairly well-paid people doing it. I knew that about
could do it. I knew enough about prop days to maybe be able to figure out how to get the plants that I needed. I knew there's no way of doing it cheaply, just none. Apart from anything else I'm against the use of volunteers in these schemes. I think that's not fair but also I see myself as helping to professionalise the sector. We've got people coming through ecological science courses all the time and there are no jobs for them. It's just backpack
ridiculous they'd end up with a backpack spraying for the council when they put all that effort into knowing what the them. So
issues are and how to handle them. So I really want to see that sector professionalised and people who have, who are holding land prepared to the money in to get the thing proper surveys
done properly actually have proper surveys done then proper planting plans and regimes and some understanding of species on their property are going to benefit by what Parks
they're doing. The National Parks are chronically staffed of resources of the they're enough
underman ed. They don't have enough to give people reasonable security. I think not
the future of conservation is not in recreational space there's too many people, they abuse it too much that it's going to have to be place where is you can keep people out, New South
where you can make a space. In New South Wales we've just seen one of the worst starts of the fire season on record. Does the rainforest hold any answers for us in building fire resilience or fire resistance this sort of land management.One of our problems is that we're surrounded by sclerophyll regrowth and there's no attempt authority
on the part of the local fire routes so we can get any appliances into the rainforest area to protect it. You're a hazard reduction advocate for sensitive areas.I'd be hazard reduction advocate anywhere. One of the things Aboriginal land
people have to understand about Aboriginal land management is that one of the things they were terrified of was wildfire so they had controlled fire. And they didn't have it once occurred
every five years or whenever it occurred to them or whenever there was a bit of money left in the kitty. They did it all the time. The fire front at we
present in the Blue Mountains we flew over it today, nobody looked out of the plane window. I couldn't believe T it's a front page story for the whole week, everybody's reading
their paper or playing their games and all that. And I'm staring out the window seeing what does look like a 300 kilometre fire front. An terrible
utterly utterly shock and what
terrible and the thought of what is dying in those fires, the animals unable to escape from those enclosed areas, how do we do the actuarial study that, how do we work out what's actually happened? probably never know. I'm just trying to search from the lesson from the book about the survival of the planet. From this. Because the dominant becoming
human species arguably is becoming more dominant. And the destruction is apparent. Is that the overall point you're trying to make?Well, I'd hope I don't have to make that point. After fear paralyses people. Worry paralyses people. this
What I'm trying to say where difference.
this book is you can make a difference. And it might seem difference
very spall. You can make a difference on that mosaic scale and you can feel better. You don't think you're saving the world. You do better and you think yes we did it. An extended version of that interview will be on our web site shortly. It took 5,000 gathered from
hours of work, rare timber gathered from around the world, 17 types of stone, four types of shell and plenty of 23 carat gold . At last, the Hannah cabinet a labour of love from Lismore cabinet maker Geoffrey Hannah, is on show in the National Gallery. Craig Allen from 7.30 ACT caught up with the master

This is the latest major piece of work called the Hannah cabinet. Not named after

I suppose that's where the foundation would could every come from. I was always interested in making things out of wood from that early stage. What
Your dad is a sleeper cutter. What do you think he'd make of this.Dad always used to love every time I'd do something. Have you seen what Geoffrey is doing? He'd go around and have a look? It would be good for him to see what's happening in later years with it. all Queensland maple from Queensland. This is all figured 14
maple. I left school when I was 14 and I walked into an apprenticeship at the time so that was very fortunate. Then in 1980 I was told to apply for a Churchill Fellowship to overseas, so I got the application and I was successful in T I was awarded a Churchill Fellowship to go to London and study. This is Jasper. It's the biggest piece of stone I have actually cut and polished in one piece. A drawer in here out of mahogany. Then
It's all dovetailed together. all
Then it has snake skin veneered all over inside. I had more or less a simple upbringing in the furniture industry but when you look at the French or English furniture going back in the 18th century, it was really out there, you There's the piece of material off Marie Antoinette's bedroom. That was given to him by the workers in Versailles in 1980. This is the heart of the paua shell from New Zealand. It's a vivid blue and green but if you turn the mussel over where the muss selling attaches it's purple and mauve. I'm in the workshop every morn at 7.30 and don't leave till 5 religiously, you know. And but
sometimes I even work longer but they're pretty strict hours, you work. And when you work for yourself, you've got to be disciplined. You have to be in that workshop, all the time to be able to make ends meet, you know. Because you don't have the privilege of day
having superannuation or take a day off if ur sick. When you don't do it, you're not Atta work bench, you make nothing. I still have the original drawing for it. If you look at the original drawing you look at that cabinet, moved off the mark. It was 6.5 through patches
years involved in it. I did go through patches many time I thought jeez I have to finish it just in case I die. I'd hate to die halfway through it you know. This is the To be able to do that, you've got to draw it said you're n an artist and I say no 'cause I work hard to get it right. That's tortoise shell from the Second World War. The diggers used to bring back shells as mementos in those days. That's why I try to save it. I had that one hidden in the dark because it will fade in light. The cabinet before this one is in the Governor-General's residence in Yarralumla. It more or less helped finance the Australiana cupboard. That's how I try to stay alive, selling something previous that you can help it. 1450 when you see what the public have to say about t it's to keep
another reason to keep working to keep it in Australia, whether it's a museum or art gallery or in one of the houses in Australia, so that's the objective now is to try to keep it here to sell it it here.

Thanks, Craig. Sydneysider John Doyle is best known as one half of the outrageous sports commentating team Roy & HG but satire is only one of his many with
talents. Mike Sexton caught up with the acclaimed playwright last week in Adelaide where was rehearsing his latest work 'Vere'. The play open next month at the Sydney Opera House. This week at final dress rehearsal of his new play at the Dunstan play house, Doyle was finding it hard let go.You just hope the
vision realised roughly e mind.For
quaits with what you had in mind.For the actor, comedian and documentary maker, writing for the theatre is coming to where his career started. More than 50 years ago on stage in the New South Wales Hunter Valley. Here you are, there is a connectedness. That is deeply pleasurable. It's the well spring of everything I have ever done always comes back to the theatre and the relationship between a acquires
performance and an audience.He acquires fraiter pass than normal. He has more mow 10 tum for the same speed of movement across the floor. The play's central character is inspired by the brim yablt Australian man who
scientist Vere Gordon Child a man who poong other things blended his left wing political ideals with his research interests into a rare branch of science called Marxist archaeology.He worked for a Labor Party for a time and wrote the definitive examination of the Labor Party, this is published in 1923 called 'How Labor governs' and it was very, very Whether he had towards - I don't know, whatever the reason, he argued that essentially the Labor Party was doomed to failure whenever it got into power because it would corrupted.He seemed to suggest a second volume would be even harsher. The tension of the story is how a physics Professor faces up to the Alzheimer's disease which is robbing him of his bril mind. It's something John Doyle has witnessed first hand with his friends family
own father.Firstly close friends family become strangers then you become a stranger to yourself then you're a stranger to the world and you can't make sense of anything. What's that like watching your own father get through that?Dreadful, readful. Wrenching, horrible. Miserable.'Vere' emerged as vehicle to explore the human journey. What it means to be human. What are the forces that shape us? Are there any rigid end
answers to anything? At the end of life experience, people spirit
have a sharper focus on the spirit tality I guess.They do.And this title I wonder if that's explored this in does
this.It is. What conclusion does the character come to? Don't want to jump the shark. I think it's best to leave that for those who see the don't want to pre-judge what people are to see.Do you secure a ticket to a happier you need
circumstance and do that, do twality,
you need to recognise spirit twality, do you need to recognise in the pressures on him in this instance are the forces of Christianity. And when the forces of Christianity come to bear on a vulnerable mind, it's an interesting result.

Is that sir.Good.

Any other questions?Where when do we get to go home? John Doyle has never difficult
afraid of using art to examine difficult circumstances. He Marking Time
has written a television series Marking Time about asylum seekers.The government will not recognise us as refugees. We must go back. But conversely, it's the unscripted Roy Slaven
satirical sports commentator Roy Slaven that's given him his highest profile.When the bus pulled up saying This Sporting Lifer and we got on board, who would've thought 28, 29 years later, the bus would still be looking for somewhere to come to rest. I tell you, it's been a joy. It's not even a blessing, it's a blessing in all directions, because it's enable ed me, for example, to know
explore other things. I don't know what might've been had the is
bus not pull up. What he hopes is the inspiration of an almost for gotten scientist mow esal scribblings of a grieving son will make the kebz between stage and audience.I want people to go to be amused, to be provoked, and if anything, to be a sorts of argument starter. I'd like to imagine people as they drift that
off, if in couples, that is, that there will be issues to talk about. A conversation starter. Thanks, Mike and bushfire
John. That's the show for this bushfire week as we say thank you again to all the workers and volunteers for making such a difference. Bye-bye. Captions by CSI Australia

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THEME MUSIC Hello, I'm Jane Hutcheon, welcome to One Plus One. Wendell Sailor sailed the height of professional football representing Australia in rugby league and union, earning a reputation as one of the world's most feared outside backs. But his career was punctuated by a series of offield incidents including fighting, binge-drinking and a two year ban for testing positive for cocaine. In his new biography, Crossing the Line, sailor opens up about giving up for adoption when just two days old and the impact on his life. He's speaking with Amanda Shalala.Welcome One? Firstly, why have you decided now is the right time to lay your life bare, warts and all for everyone to see?I think when someone's give me opportunity to tell me story through a football career which has taken me all over the world a kid from the country, top of the world and it was a good story to tell because I fell from grace but then I suppose I didn't realise how in depth I was going to go and it's just something that started off just little and just steam rolled into something more.Back to the beginning of your life, a couple of days after you were born your birth mother gave you did
away to your neighbours, how did that shape you?It didn't worry me. When you're younger you don't really know but the older you get, the more you probably
think about it. The more