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This Program is Captioned Live.Good morning, welcome to ABC News Breakfast. It's Monday, 23 September, I'm Michael Rowland.And I'm Virginia Trioli. These are our top stories today. An Australian killed in Nairobi's mall siege as survivors describe their terror.The grenades were getting Lowder and louder, we were looking for somewhere to hide but there was nowhere to hide. Dozens dead in a suicide bomb attack in a Christian church in Pakistan.The NBN board offers to resign en masse.And Sebastian Vettel strengthens his grip on the world championship by winning the Singapore grand prix. Good morning, Kenya security forces have launched an assault on a Nairobi shopping centre where militants have been hold up for more than a day. 68 people have been killed and 175 wounded. A person holding dual Australian British citizenship is among the dead. Sporadic gunfire has been heard inside. The militants are isolated in one area of the mall. Al Shabaab is claiming responsibility for this brazen attack. Kenya's President uh-huh Kenyatta is to end the stand off Kenyatta is off before more innocent people are hurt.10 to are hurt.10 to 15 armed terrorists inside the building as well as many unarmed, badly shaken, innocent civilians. We have reports of women as well as male attackers, we cannot confirm details on this. Our security analysts are looking at that, our multiagency response unit has had to delicately balance the pressure to contain the criminals with the need to keep our people still held in the building safe.Now the UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon has condemned the nie yob - Nairobi attack.I condemn in the strongest terms yesterday's terrorist attacks in Nairobi's mall. This premeditated act targeting defenceless civilians is a totally reprehensible. The perpetrators must be brought to justice. This is a time of shock for all Kenyans and all, are
including the UN family, who are proud to call Nairobi home. I express my solidarity with them at this time of grief and loss.In Australia the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade has released a statement on the siege. statement on the shopping mall
siege. In part it reads an Australian UK dual citizen was killed in the terrorist attack.The Australian Government

Now the Foreign Affairs Department also says Australians concerned for the in Kenya
welfare of family and friends in Kenya should first attempt to contact them directly. Now if you're having difficulty doing that you can contact the Department's 24-hour consular emergency centre number and if you're calling from overseas you can reach that 24 hour line on:

Now the ABC's Martin Cuddihy spoke to Australian woman Heidi Edwards who was one of those who managed to flee to safety.When we were in the yoghurt store we heard a big sound, it sounded like scaffolding falling at first so I wasn't that concerned. And then there was some panic going on and then another one in quick succession and some gunshots. We were telling everyone to get down. I don't know if you've been to Planet Yoghurt, it was completely glass and there's only the desk to hide. So then I decided to try the staff door, there's like a staff only door. Luckily that was unlocked. So we got like a few, quite a few people just
through there, closed that and just ran. It was like a service exit. And we got to a stairwell. I really wanted to get out so we went all the way down to the bottom because I thought there's going to be explosions and so that was my main concern at that point. So ran down to the bottom. Somebody else, not us, poked their head out and saw a gunmen, I don't know if it was one of the assailants, it might have been a police officer as well. And saw someone had been shot in the cafe. So we had no real choice but to stay in the stairwell. After a long period of time when the grenades started again it was clear that it was something more than a robbery. A few families had run for it and then we saw a whole lot of people, this is probably 45 minutes after the first grenade. We saw a whole lot of people run down the side and they got out fine and we'd looked everywhere for somewhere to hide, there was nowhere to hide so we decided to run for it as well. Feeling very lucky, very relieved, still a bit nervous.Heidi Edwards there speaking to the ABC's Martin Cuddihy about her ordeal in that Nairobi mall. We'll have much more on this story throughout the course of the morning but first the rest of the news with Virginia.Two suicide bombers have killed at least 78 people in a church in Pakistan. Another 120 people were wounded in the targeted worshippers leaving
Sunday mass in the city of

Sunday mass Peshawar. It's one of the worst attacks on Christians Peshawar. It's one of the attacks on Christians in the
attacks on Christians country. An Islamic militant country. An Islamic group linkeded to the group linkeded Taliban has revenge for US Taliban has claimed
responsibility saying revenge for US drone revenge for strikes.Former Perth barrister Lloyd Rayney will today whether he will face Lloyd Rayney retrial over the murder of his wife. The body wife. The body of 44-year-old Corryn Rayney was buried in Kings Park 6 years ago. Mr Rayney was found not guilty of her murder last year but prosecutors have appealed that decision. 3 specially appointed judges will hand down their decision later this morning. Immigration Minister Scott Morrison will give his first briefing on the Government's Operation Sovereign Borders today. A asylum seeker boat has been escorted to Christmas Island, the first known arrival since the Coalition's new policy began. Witnesses have told the ABC around 30 asylum seekers were onboard. The Government has not released any details saying it doesn't intend to announce every arrival.The Liberal National Party has not given up hope of winning the Queensland seat of Fairfax. A recount will begin today after Clive Palmer finished just 36 votes ahead.His LNP opponent Ted O'Brien says he believes he can still defeat Mr Palmer who has signalled a possible legal action against the Electoral CommissionGerman chancellor Angela Merkel has claimed victory in the country's election. Her Christian Democrats had won about 42% of the vote. The result is the party's best in decades and it may even manage to secure an absolute majority in the Parliament. Her main rival, the around 25% of the vote.Now we can bring you more on reports this morning about NBN board members offering their resignation en masse. Our political correspondent Melissa Clarke joins us now from Parliament House. Mel, good morning, what do we know? We know that all of the board members of the NBN Co have offered their resignations but the Government isn't yet in a position to either accept or refuse those. It's a process that has to go through Cabinet. So it leaves things in a bit of a stalemate and it come s as perhaps not a big surprise but surprising that all of them have chosen this path because Malcolm Turnbull has been very critical of the NBN board during his time as Opposition communications spokesman, particularly of the chief executive, Mike Quigley, who sits on the board as well. Of course he offered his resignation and announced he would be stepping down from his position back in July, perhaps seeing the writing on the wall. But Malcolm Turnbull was also critical of Siobhan McKenna who is the chairwoman of NBN Co and in particular in her lack of direct experience when it comes to major telecommunications programs roll out which was a criticism Malcolm Turnbull also had of Mike Quigley on that point when it comes to rolling out infrastructure as opposed to just managing a Telecoms company. But he was also critical of what was reported around the time as a lot of tension between Siobhan McKenna and Mike Quigley and the way various of those parties conducted themselves during that time. So it was always going to be an interesting relationship as to how Malcolm Turnbull would go working with NBN Co given they're going to have a different program ahead of them under a Coalition Government.On another front we're expecting details today from the new Government about the new approach the way it's going to report boat arrivals in Australia.Well they had before the election said they would every boat arrival individually would not necessarily announce but so far we every boat arrival but so far we haven't had any information from the Government of how many information Government of how many boat
arrivals there are been, how many asylum seekers have arrived since September arrived since September 7, since polling day itself. And whereas that information would normally be available from either the Department of Immigration, once they start processing asylum seekers, or from Customs and Border Protection or the military where they've been involved in helping asylum seekers who have arrived by boat, those information channels have been shut down. Scott Morrison has said that there will be weekly briefings now, although precisely what these briefing s contain in the way of information and updates we're yet to find out but we will find out today because today will be the first of the briefings given by both Scott Morrison as Immigration Minister, but also Lieutenant General Angus Campbell who is the 3-star General who the Coalition had put a lot of hope and trust in in terms of coordinating their new strategy towards managing the fwlo - flow of asylum seeker boats. Thank you so much.To elections in Germany now and Angela Merkel's Christian Democrat party is celebrating what looks like a convincing win. Barbra Miller joins us from London. Good morning. 42% of the vote, that's a pretty healthy win, isn't it?It's a great result. Chancellor Merkel came on stage shortly after those first projections came in. He - she was beaming. She's not someone known for being but you could certainly see the happiness on but you happiness on her face, she looked happiness on her looked relaxed. She wasn't particularly emotional but by Merkel standards this was a very happy occasion for her. She described the result as super, the opinion polls were predicting the CD U would get in the late 30s. They look to have got roughly 42%, as you said, so this really is a very strong, a very convincing result for her party.Certainly is and a third term is nothing to be scoffed at. But her preferred coalition is at risk, the party that she'd prefer to make a coalition government with, I think they barely got 5% of the vote and there's a vote threshold that you have to get before you can enter Parliament? That's right, you the
need to get 5%. It looks like the Free Democrats, the FTP has not reached that 5%. It's their worst result in decades. A very, very bad night for that party. That would have been the coalition that Angela Merkel would have preferred to continue with and what's most likely now, which is rather strange, is that a grand coalition will be formed where Chancellor Merkel goes into government with her main rivals the Social Democrats, the S DP. This is a model that has happened under Chancellor Merkel before. It's not untypical for Germany. Many people see it as a model for stagnation but some Germans say this is also a way of guaranteeing some kind of stability in the country. Now Chancellor Merkel herself was not entering into any speculation about what the likely outcome in terms of coalition talks would be. She said tonight's the time to celebrate, we can talk about all those other things once the final results are in. A very unlikely coalition would be a coalition with the Greens but not impossible and some of the commentators were pointing out that Angela Merkel was wearing a green and black, black is the colour of her party, green of course the colour of the green, a green and black necklace but it wouldn't be too wise to read too much into that.If we're doing interpretation via jewellery we're heading into odd territory. What sort of issues confront Angela Merkel when she takes up her role as third time around chancellor? What are the big issues facing Germany right now? The big issue, of course, is the Eurozone crisis and bizarrely this wasn't really a huge topic during the election campaign although Germany is Europe's biggest economy and is seen as the motor, the driving force of measures to deal with the Eurozone crisis. She shut down her main rival pretty quickly in their one televised debate when he tried to raise the issue of Europe. He thinks the measures have been slightly austere. She said well you voted for all of them. The SPD is onboard with these measures. If we saw a grand coalition where the SPD and CD U went where the SPD and into government together we
might see where the SPD and CD U went might see a slight relaxing of into government together the more austere aspects might see a slight the more austere aspects of
those policies the more austere aspects those policies but really it's
pretty much business the more austere aspects of
those policies pretty much business as usual
but what those policies but really it's
pretty but what many countries in
Europe pretty much business as usual
but what Europe is waiting for is this German election to be over to get on with the reforms that they see necessary. There's a sense that reform has sense that reform has been on hold, many people pushing for banking union in Europe, for example, and the measures to get that rolling if it's to succeed are certainly going to get going once we get a coalition in Germany. However, we could face several weeks of tortuous coalition discussions if it's not entirely clear which partner Angela Merkel would like.We're accustomed to those discussions here in Australia. Good to talk to you Barbra, thanks so much.OK, let's look at the front pages of the Monday newspapers now. The 'Guardian' Australia covers the Nairobi shopping mall attack with police mounting an assault to try to end the siege. A former Adelaide resident who managed to escape describes how he hid in a box as others nearby were shot at. That story's on the front page of the 'Advertiser'.Another teenager survived by pretending he was dead. The 'Courier Mail' says the terrorists killed anyone who could not answer the question what's the name of Mohammad's mother.The 'Herald Sun' says French and Canadian nationals were among those slaughtered.The the 'Sydney Morning Herald' reports the entire board of the NBN has offered to stand down because they don't have the confidence of the incoming government.That story's also in 'The Age' which says former Telstra boss Ziggy Switkowski is waiting in the wings to be appointed executive chairman.The 'Australian' details moves by the Federal Government to fast track plans for the development of the Great Barrier Reef. The Pilbara in the WA and the Hunter Valley in NSW.The 'Financial Review' says the Coalition has begun reshaping the workplace system by reversing reshaping the by reversing a tax clamp down by reversing a tax clamp on self-employed people.A young mother was killed when her car collided with a truck near Darwin on the weekend. The 'Northern Territory News' has that story.The Canberra tiems 'Canberra Times' reports on reporting standards in schools across the ACT. Tasmanian based Hawthorn fans are scrambling to get a ticket to the MCG for the grand final.And the pure joy of the Dockers' first trip to an AFL grand final is magically celebrated in the 'West Australian'.That's a great front page.And look how they've turned their banner purple and the strap at the bottom is purple and a full page bleed of those ecstatic crowds. So, west, come on over, get on your planes and Head On over to the east coast. We're going to celebrate with you because we don't want Hawthorn to win either. I shouldn't say thasmtYou shouldn't say that at all. Goodbye, Hawthorn viewers, it was nice knowing you.You can put up with it. Hawthorn, Collingwood, Richmond, the teams that are well accustomed to being - In grand finals.No, no, disliked a little by many -.Some more than others. I'm with you, I like the fairytale ending of the Dockers' first grand final. Go Dockers. Do you sense a purple week merging as well?Yes, absolutely.If only you wore ties on this program you could wear a purple tie but I won't start that argument again.I might break a tradition by the end of the week.Wear a purple tie on Friday for the Dockers. They will be so thrilled. There's a lot to talk about this morning and we have information coming in for you which we will share with you as soon as we can about that siege, do we call it still a siege situation in the Westgate shopping mall in Nairobi. Police squads are still there inside and around the shopping centre but it's a stalemate at this stage. An unknown number of people are still inside as well. So that's something we're keeping our eye on.We'll stay across that story. As part of another story I've been given an ancient artefact, it's a very rare artefact, very valuable. People, who - What's that?Well may you ask because a lot of people wouldn't know.A lot of young people this morning saying "What's that?"It's a groovy one actually. This, young people, is called an LP, an album.LP stands for long-playing. It was an LP, a long-playing record.It's an old-fashioned CD. There's a bit of a comeback. LP sales went chillax db went up 72% on the year before.Because the year before 10 were sold.There's a resurgence in vinyl sales because of hipsters and independent music fans.For some people vinyl never went away and there's always been a number and groovy stores in number of alternative or cool and groovy stores in the major capital cities at least that continue to sell new vinyl capital cities at least records as well as continue to sell new records as well as vintage ones
and records as well as and some artists continue to release their and some artists release their music on vinyl.
and some artists continue to
But you've got to say

But you've got to mainstream, you know. The big international megaselling artists.Are all on iTunes.They're releasing their music digitally and on CDs. It's a niche market but it's nice to know that it's still around.And purists say the sound is much better on an LP.An audio technician once used a beautiful phrase talking about LPs, vinyl records to me. He said he always played his music on vinyl as opposed to CDs because the sound is sweeter. There's a sweeter sound of that literal physical connection that's made between the diamond tip of the stylus and the surface of the vinyl record and there's something about that tension that just creates this beautiful sound.We dug out some sound of a vinyl record, we might play that next hour for people who have never heard - That annoying scratching sound.Yes.And someone yells out "Clean the record." "Can you blow the fluff off the stylus."And you get this huge feedback as you blew it off.Young people aren't understanding a word we're saying this morning. There's about 7 words in that sentence I just used where every single one was Huh?ITunes, that would have registered.Later this morning just after we go off air, but that's why we go off air around 9:30 so we can rush home in time and watch live to the Emmy awards, which air, stream live from America because
the Emmy awards, which we love because we're big fans of the Emmy awards, which we because we're big fans of TV.
And some top flight drama programs vying for the top prize which is always best drama. You've got 'Game of Thrones', Breaking bad, House of Cards, fantastic work being done at the moment in TV. The News Room has got quite a few gongs as well.Really?Yes.I don't understand that at all.Going back to House of Cards, Kevin Spacey is good chance to win best actor.Let's get that off, yes. Timing Virginia.I should have got there just a second earlier. If you'd like to join our conversation this morning, this is how you do so:

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The top stories this morning - Kenya's security forces have launched an assault on Islamist militants who attacked a nie - Nairobi shopping centre. An Australian has been confirmed among the 68 people who died.Two suicide bombers have killed at least 78 people at a church in Pakistan. Another 120 people were wounded in one of the worst attacks on Christians in the country.And the entire board of the NBN has offered to resign. Former Telstra boss Ziggy Switkowski is expected to replace Mike Quigley as the company's executive chairman. In one of WA's most high profile criminal cases former prosecutor Lloyd Rayney will today learn if he is to face a murder retrial.3 judges will hand down their decision on an appeal on a decision last year that found him not guilty of killing his wife.It's been almost a year since Lloyd Rayney walked from a Perth court acquitted of the murder of his wife Corryn.And we still don't know what happened to Corryn and that is a terrible tragedy.The two were profession.
prominent members of WA's legal profession. He, a senior prosecutor turned criminal barrister, and she a registrar of WA's Supreme Court. Mrs Rayney disappeared on August 7, 2007. Her body was found a week later buried in Kings Park in central Perth.Soon after police named Mr Rayney as the prime suspect but he denied any involvement in his wife's death. Three years later he was charged.And I look forward to finally being able to prove my innocence. That's all I wanted to say, thank you very much.At his trial it was alleged Mr Rayney assaulted his wife at the family's Como home. Prosecutors claimed he wanted to get rid of Mrs Rayney because their marriage had broken down and she was threatening to ruin his career. The case split the family. Mr Rayney had the support of the couple's two daughters while Mrs Rayney's father and sister gave their backing to police and prosecutors. After three and prosecutors. months of evidence Justice
Brian and prosecutors. After three Brian Martin, who heard the case without a jury, Brian Martin, who heard case without a jury, returned a
verdict of case without a jury, verdict of not guilty.Justice Martin said the prosecution case lacked case lacked crucial evidence and was beset by uncertainties and improbabilities.One chapter in this ongoing saga, is there anything you want to say about that?Justice weeks appeal.
later prosecutors lodged an appeal. 3 interstate judges were specially appointed to hear the case because of the Rayney's links to WA's legal profession. The appeal two took days with prosecutors arguing Mr Rayney should face a re trial because the trial judge didn't properly assess all the evidence against him. Whatever the outcome, the judgment won't mean an end to the case. Mr Rayney is still facing charges of bugging his wife's telephone. He's also suing the State of WA for defamation. Let's look at how the markets finished last week:

Let's go to sport, it's good morning to Steve Pearce. Welcome back.Thanks, Michael. Let's start with the Formula One. Sebastian Vettel has won the Singapore Formula One grand prix. Last night Vettel started from pole position and was tested at the first turn by Nico. He was able to retake the lead at the second and was never Nico. He was able to never headed from there. It was not a good night for Australian not a Daniel Ricciardo as he crashed into the barriers. Vettel crossed the line 32 seconds clear of his nearest rival Fernando Alonso. Mark Webber was hit with a 10-place grid penalty for the next race in South Korea after he took a lift back to the pits from pernand o Alonso at the end of the race. Let's hear from the race winter.Well, I mean obviously the start was quite hairy, I didn't get going initially and had to keep the inside clear to him but fortunately he went in too deep and I could get him back which was crucial because then we had some good case. With the safety car it was difficult but then we seemed to come back as soon as the safety car came in. We had a very, very strong case in the car and the car was incredible. I said to the team this just doesn't happen like that by accident or luck, there's hard work behind which I appreciate and it's a pleasure to drive it around this crazy track.Sebastien Vettel on his way to a 4th consecutive a title. Hawthorn and Fremantle set to meet Saturday afternoon at the MCG. The Hawks are positive about Lance Franklin's fitness. That elbow giving him some strife but for Brendan Whitecross it's another knee injury at the wrong time of year and he will miss the grand final and much of next year. The review panel's verdict of two bumps will be closely scrutinised later today. Both of them will just be feeling a little bit nervous. Of course it is grand final. Now in Perth all smiles, the Dockers are preparing for their first grand final. Fremantle outplayed Sydney in every aspect including what was a pretty immense defensive effort at Subiaco on Saturday night. It more than caught the eye of Hawthorn. The NRL, Newcastle was the big winter from the weekend's semifinal action. It was the Knights, they weren't highly fancied to see off the Storm but that's exactly what they did at AAMI Park. For Danny Buderus it's a dream end to his career.They face the Roosters this weekend. Cronulla came close but not close enough as its season came to an end at the hands of an albeit pretty tired Manly side but Manly did manage to get over the line. Paul Gallen's try there was ruled out due to an infringement. The Sea Eagles have to reinvigorate themselves quickly.Manchester United has been thumped by City in the Manchester derby this morning. It's not the start David Moyes was looking for as United was taken apart. Two goals from Guerra and two strikes sealed a 4-1 win. I'll bring you all the goals in the next hour or so but Spurs had a good win and Arsenal are top of the table 3 1 winners over Stoke. That's a fine looking record.It is.You couldn't beat those in those days when you used to get special edition. All the posters, the little posters that unfold. And that's why people still love records.And the artwork. You can't get artwork, you get a tiny bit of artwork on digital.The sleeves and the fold outs.The words of the sonction. You get a magic coupon every now and then. They were the days.The the Rolling Stones album with the sticky fingers with the real zip on the outside.Watch it that one. You had to mention that one. And you've kept all of your vinyl records?I have all of them.And your turntable.Absolutely.Do you bust them out?I do give them a spin occasionally. And you do get that crackle and St Stylus fluff as well.We will be talking about that later in the program. Good to see you're totally focused on sport this morning. Completely focused.ABC News Breakfast can be watched live on the web.You can visit abc.net.au/news and stream us live.And weather with the details. A strongest storm to hit Asia this year. The winds gusts have been up to 213km/h. It's swept past the Philippines and Taiwan and made landfall over southern China. Some areas in Taiwan have picked up 790 mm of rain in just 3 days. That's more than Perth's yearly average.Brisk westerly winds are still causing very heavy rains over the Philippines and another tropical storm is strengthening likely
over the Pacific. Now this is likely to form into a typhoon and there's plenty more rain on the way for that region but particularly around southern China today. Now for us happy equinox, it will occur around the eastern states at 6:44. The talk will be the unseasonable 27 degrees, that's on par with heat Melbourne will Sydney and Brisbane. This is due to a low pressure trough that's dragging that heat in from the interior behind it there is a cooler change. Let's look at WA where another deep low and very strong cold front will cross the south-west this morning with very strong winds and abnormally high tides. We'll look at that more shortly. 27 degrees today in Brisbane:

You're watching ABC News Breakfast. Still to come - more reaction to that attack in Kenya. Our North America correspondent Lisa Millar will be joining us to give us the US point of view. Later we'll speak to a global security expert to find out about Al Shabaab the terrorist group behind that attack. And we'll take a look at today's newspapers. Joining us Jim Middleton. But first the news of the day with Michael.Kenya's security forces have launched an assault on a Nairobi shopping centre where militants have been holed up for more than a day. Gunmen stormed the weekend killing at least 68 people person holding people and wounding 175. A person holding dual Australian
British person British citizenship is among the dead. 2 suicide bombers British citizenship is have killed at least 78 the dead. 2 at a church have killed at least at a church in Pakistan.
Another 120 people at a Another 120 people were wounded
in at a church in Pakistan.
Another in the attack that targeted worshippers leaving in the attack that worshippers leaving Sunday mass in the worshippers in the city of Peshawar. It's one of the worst attacks on one of the worst attacks Christians in the country.Former Perth barrister Lloyd Rayney will find out today whether he will face a retrial over the murder of his wife. The body of 44-year-old Corryn Rayney was buried in Kings Park 6 years ago. Mr Rayney was found not guilty of her murder last year but prosecutors have appealed that decision. All the board members of the national broadband network have offered to resign. Federal Cabinet will need to decide whether to accept the offer. There's been speculation the board doesn't have the confidence of the new Government.And German chancellor Angela Merkel has claimed victory in the general election. Early results show her Christian Democrats have won about 42% of the vote. The result is the party's best in decades and it may even manage to secure an absolute majority in the Parliament.Back to Kenya now and the ABC's Martin Cuddihy is at the Westgate shopping mall in Nairobi.The Australian Government has confirmed that a dual the many
Australian UK citizen is one of the many people who were killed here at the Westgate malduring the attacks. The Department of Foreign affairs has described it as a senseless loss of life and offered the victim's family. But of course there are and offered its sympathies to course there are still stories emerging of people course emerging of people who managed to survive the shooting and one of those comes from an to survive the shooting and one
Australian lawyer living here of those comes from in nie - Nairobi. I sat down with Heidi Edwards at her home and she told me how she survived.We were telling everyone to get down. I don't know if you've been to Planet Yoghurt, it's completely glass and there's only the desk to hide. Then I decided to try the staff door, there's like a staff only door. Luckily that was un locked. So we got like a few, quite a few people through there, closed that and just ran. So ran down to the bottom, somebody else, not us, poked their head out and saw a gunmen. I don't know if it was one of the assailants, it might have been a police officer as well,led and could see someone had been shot in the cafe. So we had no real choice but to stay in the stairwell. A few families had run for it and then we saw a whole lot of people, this is probably 45 minutes after the first grenade. We saw a whole lot of people run down the side and they got out fine. So we - and we'd looked everywhere for somewhere to hide, there was nowhere to hide so we decided to just run for it as well. The hostage situation is still unfolding behind me. About 30 people are still being held captive by between 10 and 15 Al Shabaab militants. I spoke to a representative of Kenya's interior ministry and he provided us with an update.The operation to neutralize the attackers at the mall went on overnight. We can say that the number of the dead has risen, the total is now 59 dead, 175 injured. Many of the people who are injured were taken to hospital and many of them have already been discharged but they continue - some continue to remain in hospital.And of course there are still close to 200 people in Kenyan hospitals. Because of that overwhelming burden on this country's national
medical systems, there is a national campaign under way here. Kenyans are being urged to donate blood to help the victims of the shooting.The the ABC's Martin Cuddihy there. Another witness has told of how he was shot at by a gunman in the mall. He says he's lucky to be alive.Unfortunately where I was the security guard was just lying next to where I was, he was shot in the head, he died instantly. I saw that. He at me, the bullet actually, there was a graze here. So he shot at my head but luckily it hit the wall behind me. That's when I nearly blacked out but wall behind me. That's when nearly blacked out but I heard
3 or 4 wall behind me. That's when I
nearly blacked 3 or 4 other shots. So I - layed down 3 or 4 other shots. So I layed down still. I could see the layed down still. I could the guy next to me was the guy next to me was still. After some while they walked After some while into the mall. I guess some of them went into the basement and the others went to the rooftop. A survivor therefrom the siege. British PM David Cameron has condemned the attack as barbaric. He said Britain will do all it can to help end the stand off.It is an absolutely sickening and despicable attack of appalling brutality. What we know is that 3 British nationals have been killed. Because the situation is ongoing we should prepare ourselves for further bad news. Our thoughts also should be with the Kenyan Government and the Kenyan people at this time. These appalling terrorist attacks that take place where the perpetrators claim they do it in the name of a religion, they don't. They do it in the name of terror, violence, extremism and their warped view of the world. They don't represent Islam or Muslims in Britain or anywhere else in the world.David Cameron there. North America correspondent Lisa Millar joins us from Washington. Good morning. How many US citizens have been killed in this? Americans, you've got me, actually, Virginia. I'm sorry. I'm not aware.So if no Americans are involved in that what's the US doing in response to it? Well, there's been a lot of questions being asked last couple of years they have
been tracking last couple of been tracking American citizens who have been heading to Somalia to take up arms with Al Shabaab. In fact Peter King, who sits on the Homeland who sits on Security committee on Capitol Hill was saying between 40 and 50 Americans over the last few years have headed over there. He thinks many of them have been killed but there are still about 20 active. Now, just in the last little while we were following the Twitter feed of Al Shabaab. They would keep tweeting and then get their handle would get taken down by Twitter as soon as people started complaining. But what they did do was tweet the names of three Americans that they allege are part of these attackers who are still inside the mall. So a very clear and close connection for America, if that does turn out to be true, and raises a whole lot of questions about the fear of homegrown terrorists.Well that's right, and many countries around the world have had to deal with that, the fact that their own nationals are heading off overseas and and
joining these terrorist groups and joining their battles in foreign lands. Al Shabaab has been in a difficult and complex relationship with Kenya for a while now since the in vaition or the force being sent into Somalia next door. So what's Al Shabaab's particular beef here and it's long been suspected this shopping mall might be a target for such a terrorist attack? Well, there's a couple of different arguments. In fact some are saying this was a last-ditch effort to halt Al Shabaab's demise because the African Union-led military offensive against Al Shabaab in its base in Somalia had been so successful that Al Shabaab was having to sort of head outside of Somalia to try and boost its numbers and show that it was still a force to be reckoned with. Whereas others, other experts are saying no, this is a sign that it is still very powerful, it's organised, it was well planned. What has gone on in the last month though is a sign of widening rifts from within the group because one of their key commanders was an American who was born in Alabama. He was killed by opponents within Al Shabaab, by hardline opponents. So there's been this growing rift with inside the organisation inside has made it more has made But it did certainly link up with Al-Qaeda But it did certainly link with Al-Qaeda and tighten the ties But it did certainly link up
with Al-Qaeda ties with Al-Qaeda over the with Al-Qaeda and tighten the last year or two and for the Americans they've been watching it very closely because their greatest fear when they look at what's happened with this mall, they think that those Americans who have they think that those who have gone over there to be trained , who have perhaps taken part in an attack like this would then return to the US and attempt to launch a similar attack on what they consider soft targets. I mean there's no security as such in American malls and it's long been feared that something similar could happen in this country.Has there been any formal response yet from the US Government to this tragedy? The President has spoken to Kenya's leaders and offered his sympathies and also vowed to do whatever he can to help the country and to help bring those responsible to justice. Certainly a great deal of shock here over what happened but also, Virginia, I should add in a matter of moments Washington service that
will be starting a memorial service that the President will be at for the victims of the navy yard shooting just last week and that is also dominating the headlines. So whichever way you look it's pretty sad news here in the US.Good to talk to you, Lisa, thank you.Let's come back home and it's a Darwin that only makes an appearance when the tides are right.Once a year the sandbar on Darwin Harbour plays host to a unique game of cricket but it's a race against the tide before the pitch gradge bally - gradually disappears. During a spring tide on Darwin Harbour, a sandbar gradually appears from nowhere and once a year that sandbar is transformed into a cricket pitch like no other. It's just one of those Darwin things that if you're in Darwin you have to do it.We've got the DJ playing, we've got - there's refreshments, there's the cricket match, there's going for a bit of a dip, playing in the sand.The only way there is by boat and as the tide dropped around 7 metres people are quickly ferried out to the sandbar for the experience. Never been out here before, it's pretty awesome. Some of the locals drop by to see what all the fuss was about.It's pretty casual sort of affair and typically all the kids get involved too. Pretty social sort of event but however if you hit the ball out straight into the water well then that's a 6.Stubbies in hand, spectators made the most of the idyllic venue with many not afraid of the dangers that are ever present in Darwin waters.Stinking hot but we'll have a good morning here to swim in so that's the best part.Safety in numbers. Crocs won't get all of us.But the day is ruled by the tides and once the waters rise it's game over.See, that's always the danger of beach cricket anywhere.The tide.Get it done quick before the sea washes out your perfectly formed pitch, your crease marked out with your wooden bat.They brought Astro turf with them.They did.Who takes Astroturf to the beach for cricket. I hope you pick up after yourselves and take all your rubbish with you. All I can think is the empty cans littered around. No, they're very litter aware, the people of Darwin. And if they don't take it the crocs will eat it. That's how it goes, doesn't it? You're watching ABC News Breakfast. Thanks for joining us. These are our top stories. Kenya's security forces have launched an assault on Islamist militants who attacked a Nairobi shopping centre at the weekend. An Australian has been confirmed among the 68 people who died when gunmen stormed the complex.Two suicide bombers have killed at least 78 people at a church in Pakistan. Another 120 were wounded in one of the worst attacks on Christians in the country. And the entire board of the NBN has offered to resign. Former Telstra boss Ziggy Switkowski is expected to replace Mike Quigley as the company's executive chairman. It's Monday morning so let's take a look at the papers. We're joined today of Newsline, joined today by the presenter of Newsline, Jim Middleton. Good morning.What's first on your list today?The story you were list just talking about. list today?The story you were just talking Morning Herald' just talking about. An
exclusive Morning Herald' and the 'Melbourne Age' by Adele Ferguson and Eric Johnson, the entire NBN board to resign, not entirely a surprise given the relationship between the incoming Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull and not just Mike Quigley, the recently retired chief executive, but also Siobhan McKenna the chair. He's been critical of her for not having sufficient experience in the field and the story is that they've all offered to fall on their sword as the Fairfax media put it. Dr Ziggy Switkowski, late chair of Telstra years ago, is expected to be tapped to come in and take over. Be interesting to see exactly how this all pans out, particularly in terms of the Coalition's plans to abandon fibre to the home and just fibre to the node as you may recall in the Indi election Cathy McGowan's victory, she put down in part to the desire of rural people to have fibre to the home and are we going to see the return of what I recall in the Howard years was called the digital divide and - Where some had a better network than others.And particularly people further away and this will be an issue that may well be of some contention as far as the Nationals are concerned within the new Government.Let's go to the 'Australian' now and look at the issue of asylum seeker boats and more importantly how the new Government is going to handle the reporting of their is not the only newspaper or the only media outlet reporting that the incoming Government is retreating from what happened under Labor which was that as every incoming boat arrived there was a press release and sometimes even a press conference. Scott Morrison, the new Immigration Minister says that under Operation Sovereign Borders the militarisation of border protection, there will only be a weekly briefing. As it turned out a boat turned up at Christmas Island yesterday. It seems the routine as far as dealing with them was not much changed from that that occurred under Labor. But there will be a briefing today and we will get a clear sign as to how the Coalition plans to handle this. We have heard already from one of the Labor leadership aspirants, Bill Shorten, suggesting first of all they're going to stop the boats and now they're going to hide the boats. We will see, I think.Big media backlash against that one, the issue of there not being the formal announcements. So that will clearly play out for a little bit but in the end the Government has the whip hand on this, Jim, they can decide it as they see fit.The Government can do as they wish. I think more importantly on this issue is what happens in Jakarta at the end of the week when PM Tony Abbott has his first meeting as PM with President Yudhoyono. Quite clearly all Jakarta
the smoke signals emerging from Jakarta over the years, not just in re cent days has been that they very unhappy about the notion of turning back boats. I suspect that what may emerge is some kind of enhanced military to military contact will be announced and we will see what emerges from that over time. Speaking of Bill Shorten, he features as well on the front page of the 'Australian' on a local story.He was on TV yesterday and the other leadership aspirant for the Labor Party, Anthony Albanese, was on 'Insiders' both of them walking away from the very controversial announcement in the lead up to the Budget of taking money effectively away from single mothers, shifting them off parenting payments and onto new start allowance, let them up to $100 a week worse off. Clearly this was an issue during the election campaign because you might recall that e-Kevin Rudd volunteered that it was one of the things that he felt very uncomfortable about and was promising that if Labor were returned he would do what he could to reverse it. So clearly in Labor's polling there was an indication that it was showing up and they have to walk back. Interestingly enough, as Minister for Employment, Bill Shorten did endorse the cabinet decision. Anthony Albanese endorse the cabinet Anthony Albanese says that as a Anthony minister he opposed minister he the end neither did minister he opposed it but in more substantive the end neither more substantive about it than that. It did save the that. It did save Government $700 million over the forward estimates, I think, and interestingly enough there's no sign that the new Government plans to do anything about that at this stage.We've had a member of the various welfare organisations and point-blank saying that decision, in their view, was responsible for an increase in poverty in Australia and they were putting it that boldly. Leadership aspirants are feeling that very cleanly.Indeed and you would expect with Labor's constituency that would be a very sore pressure point in indeed.Let's look at that fabulous page 1 again, can we, page 1 of the 'West joy,
Australian'. The Dockers pure joy, pure purple joy.Purple haze from WA. And what a game it was indeed. When you consider the history over the 19 years of the Dockers, what adversity they've gone through to have achieved such a magnificent victory and played so well. Playing the Swans at their own game, a rather tired Swans outfit I've got to say, but quite dominating. But from a personal point of view I'm going to return to the 'Australian' as well. My old mate Matt Price was, widow Sue Price says in the mate Matt Price was, as his
'Australian' today, ridiculously optimistic about the Dockers' prospects over the years and unfortunately given that he died of cancer in 2007, he won't be around to see them take on the Hawks at the MCG on Saturday. However, all his children will be and Jack, his oldest son, actually stayed at my place when he came over to see them play Geelong at Geelong and they had a famous victory there and he was threatening then that he would drive back if they got into the grand final.Have you got the spare bedroom ready, he's heading your way.He's threatening to bring over a people mover so I think that front bedroom is going to be fairly crowded.There's going to be particular than one of him.And his other children, Matilda and Harry, will be there too to see them play my team which is even more amazing. Much in all I would like to see the Hawks win -It could be very tense for you, Jim.It could be but I've got to say it always seems to me for the AFL any time an interstate side gets in to the grand final it is very, very good for the game indeed.Always exciting.And for its future. So always exciting. Jack, if you're out there, you're welcome and your mates too.And their mates and their mates. And bring the spirit of your dad with you because he's greatly missed. Just quickly, we're already on the record as saying we don't want to see your team win but you will forgive us for saying that.You're forgiven. We've had plenty of good years and we may well have another good one this Saturday too.In spite of us.It's a Dockers couch this week, sorry, Jim.Nice to see you.Indeed, pleasure to be here. Let's go to sport and good morning to Steve.You're a Dockers fan as well, aren't you? Yes, you.Hawthorn, clearly. Go Hawks. Sebastien vetle has won the Singapore grand prix overnight.He was tested at the first turn by Nico Rosberg but the champion was able to hit back after losing his spot at the first turn, retaking the lead and was never challenged from there. It was not a good night for Daniel Ricciardo as you can see him slamming into the barriers on lap 25. Vettel crossed the line 30 seconds ahead of Alonso with Raikkonen third. Mark Webber, his car got into all sorts of bother in the last lap and got a lift from Alonso but that will cost him a 10-place penalty in the next race.Obviously the start was quite hairy, quite difficult with Niko had a good start better than me. I didn't get going initially and had to keep the inside clear to him but fortunately he went a little bit in too deep and I could get him back which was crucial because then we had some very good place. Controlled the first stint with the safety obviously it was difficult but first stint with the safety car then we seemed to come back as obviously it was difficult soon as the safety car came then we seemed to come back We had a strong car and the car We had a I said car and I car and the car was incredible. just happen like that by I said to the team this doesn't accident or by luck, it's just happen like that work behind which accident or by luck, work behind which I appreciate
and it's work behind and it's just a pleasure to drive it around this crazy and it's just a pleasure track.Crazy drive it around this track.Crazy track indeed. Let's take a quick look at the Let's take soccer this morning. Manchester Let's take a quick look at United has been thumped by City in the Manchester derby. Not in the Manchester derby. the start that David Moyes was looking for, the new United manager. United was taken apart. 2 goals from Sergio Aguero and strikes from Toure and Nasri sealed what was a 4-1 win for City at Eastlands and for Manchester United way back in 7th place on the table it's not the start that they were looking for to their Premier league season. Now Spurs new signing Paulino scored all points at Cardiff. And Arsenal is at the top of the table after beating Stoke City. And the Americans have just won this morning's race in the America's Cup so we're back to 8-4. The Kiwis are still on the edge. One more race needed.This is the longest final series in history.I knew ourselves.
we were getting ahead of ourselves. Last week we were say 8-0, there's no way they can catch up. I was thinking yes there is.Exactly, if you can get to 8-0 I guess the other guys can win 8 in a row.I think the longest one was in Auckland in about 2000. So we're near there though.Thanks, Steve. Let's check the weather now.A low pressure trough is drawing heat from the interior right across the eastern States. A cooler change behind the trough. In the west another deep low and very strong cold front is crossing the south-west this morning with very strong winds and abnormally high tides. Next cold fronts are due to arrive on Wednesday and Thursday. Hot air over most of Queensland

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trying to among the dead and Kenya's trying to end the siege. We'll update you on this later this hour. The entire hour. The entire board of the NBN offers to resign en masse and some old spin that's making a comeback.The Gen Y's coming in they know vinyl as a crisper, warmer sound. There's a new vinyl revelation under way. We'll find out why so many people are abandoning digital music in favour of records later this hour. But first here's the latest news with Virginia Trioli.Good morning. Kenya's security forces have launched an assault on a Nairobi shopping centre where militants have been holed up now for more than a day. Gunmen stormed the complex at the weekend killing at least 68 people and wounding 75. 175, my apologies. An Australian is among the dead. Authorities say isolated
the militants are are now isolated in one area of the mall. The Somalian Islamist group Al Shabaab has claimed responsibility. Two suicide bombers have killed at least 78 people at a church in Pakistan. Another 120 were wounded on the worst attack on Christians in the country. The bombers targeted worshippers leaving Sunday mass in Peshawar. A group linked to the Pakistani Taliban said the attack was in re venge for US drone strikes. All the board members of the national broadband network have Cabinet
offered to resign. Federal Cabinet will need to decide whether to accept that offer. There's been speculation the board does not have the confidence of the new Government.Immigration Minister Scott Morrison will give his first briefing on the Government's Operation Sovereign Borders today. A asylum seeker boat has been escorted to Christmas Island, the first known arrival since the Coalition's new policy began.Witnesses have told the ABC around 30 asylum seekers were onboard.The Government hasn't released any details saying it does not intend announce every boat arrival. Former Perth barrister Lloyd Rayney will find out today whether he will place a retrial over the murder of his wife.The body of 44-year-old Corryn Rayney was buried in Kings Park 6 years ago. Mr Rayney was found not guilty of her murder last year but prosecutors appealed that decision. 3 specially appointed judges will today hand down their decision on that appeal later this morning.Now a quick look at the weather for you:

More now on the attack in Nairobi. The ABC's Martin Cuddihy spoke to Australian woman Heidi Edwards who managed to flee to safety. Let's take a look.When we were in the yoghurt store we heard quite a big sound. It sounded like scaffolding falling at first and so I wasn't that concerned. And then there was some panic in
going on and then another one in quick succession and some gunshots and we were telling everyone to get down. I don't know if you've been to Planet Yoghurt, it's completely glass and there was only the desk to hide. So I decided to try the staff door, there was a staff only door. Luckily that was unlocked. So we got like a few, like quite a few people through there. Closed that and just ran. It was like a service exit and we got a stairwell. I really wanted to get out so we went all the way down to the bottom because I thought there's going to be explosions. And so that was my main concern at that point. So I ran down to the bottom, somebody else, not us, poked their head out and saw a gunman. I don't know if it was one of the assailants, it might have been a police officer as well and could see someone had been shot in the cafe. So we had no real choice but to stay in the stairwell. After a long period of time when the grenades started again it was clear that it was something more than a robbery. A few families had run for it and then we saw a whole lot people, and then we saw a whole lot of minutes after the first people, this is probably 45 grenade, we saw a whole lot of people run down the side grenade, we saw a whole lot people run down the they people run down the side and we'd looked everywhere for they got out fine so we - somewhere to hide, there was nowhere to hide so we decided to run to run for it as well. So feeling very lucky, very relieved, still a bit nervous.Heidi Edwards there who spoke to the ABC's Martin Cuddihy. Professor Joseph Siracusa has been on our program before. He's the head of Global Studies at RMIT University and he joins us now for a talk about the aftermath, the consequences from this attack and Al Shabaab itself. Good morning, nice to see you again .Nice to see you.For those who might not know, in a nutshell who or what Shabaab? Al Shabaab is a homegrown terrorist organisation from Somalia which has been bred in the turmoil of Somalia, there's been a civil war there for about 20 years. They became big players in 2005, 2006 and they took over certain regions of the country and to make a long story short about Kenya, because they disrupted everything, Kenya's in the north-east, Somalia's in their north-east. If we have a graphic here, poor Africa is nothing but trouble and they were interfering with trade and tourism. In October in 2011 Kenya invade ed Somalia to get these people without a UN sanction. In fact it was called kind of a George W Bush entry into the Somalia, here we come, ready or not. couple of years they've been beating couple of beating these people up pretty badly. They claimed victory last November and there are at least 500,000 Somalians that have gone to Kenya for refuge and they live on the eastern suburbs and they speak Swahili and the Kenyans are very fearful that these people are going to be radicalised by sleepers among them. It's sort of like their boat people, they're worried about who the hell these people are. So some of these people in the shopping centre actually were speaking Swahili instead of Arabic. Al Shabaab simply means youth in Arabic so they're real easy to follow and that's the organisation, that's the kind of people they attract. Here heavy hitters and what they're doing in response to what they see as not just the invasion of Somalia but the brutalisation of members of their organisation. So nobody has clean hands here. These guys just didn't go into a shopping centre and kick ass for nothing. They're very angry and these guys all play a very tough game.And the concern is, as expressed by our US correspondent Lisa Millar earlier in the program, this group is very effective at within
recruiting people from not just within the horn of Africa but overseas as well, countries like the US.Oh yeah, this is the Afghanistan of this century right now because they've replaced Afghanistan. It's an open town, it's an open place for recruiters. And let's face it, it's easy to recruit youth who are very unhappy and unemployed and all the rest of it. They're very good at this and they regard this as a victory. The effect fact that people around the world are trying to figure out who these people are, that's their victory that they were able to cause this kind of terror.But Kenya has been expecting for some time some kind of blow back from that invasion of Somalia and I understand it security has been increased in a number of places throughout the country that might have expected to be terrorist targets. This shopping mall one of them.They've been expecting blow back since 1998 when the American embassy was destroyed there and I think 1,000 Kenyans were injured and there were 200 deaths or something like that. They've been sort of habituated to terrorism. They're expecting it. And they thought it was pretty much under control. There's a terrorist act in Kenya now which is pretty locked down pretty much everything you have to lock down. But they got through anyway and if you're prepared to give up your life for a cause there's not much that can stop you anyway.And the potency of this group has been so grimly demonstrated over the past 48 hours, what if anything is going to nip this group in the bud? Oh, this is going to get them recruits. People are going to see this as sort of heroic. They've held off the security forces of Kenya. I understand the Israelis got in today because they partly own the shopping centre. I mean the shopping centre was held out as a first world experience, a safe, serene area and here safe, serene area and here it is a battle ground. They're is going to hurt is a battle ground. going to hurt by what's
happened, they're going to be heartened by what's happened. They've taken on Kenya on its own turf and they've kind of beaten them up. We don't know how many people how many people are going to be dead by the time this is done. They've probably got the place triggered to blow up anyway. What is going to be the international community's response to this, do you think? Well, as soon as they started killing Brits, Americans and Australians, you've got the Brits, the Americans and Australian governments coming together to put up a task force. There will be people right now in PM and security who are sitting down. What is going to be our response? How can we help the Kenyans? Everything's go. John Kerry says he's go. When Ban Ki-Moon says the international community is behind you everything is go, so there will be forces at work and the fact that the Israelis are on the ground is very heartening because they're very good at this thing as you well know. So there will be a partial international response. I'm just sorry this takes the spotlight away from what we should be paying attention to in Syria. I mean we have to get those chemical weapons out of there. There's still serious things to do there. I got the impression, and I studied this for 3 years at Griffith when I looked at counter-terrorism, when there's a lull or a sort of a success for the good guys, the bad guys take advantage of the lull and they exploit it by an attack somewhere else. This doesn't really come out of the blue. They sort of orchestrate this. I mean they don't all belong to the same union but they all belong to the same choir, so to know when to chime in and chime out.Always good to see you, thank you for joining us today.Thank you.Let's get more now on developments this morning that the entire board of the NBN has decided to quick. Melissa Clarke joins us from Parliament House. Good morning, what do we know? We know that all the board members have offered their resignations but that that hasn't been acted upon yet because that's something of a broader question for the Government, not just the Minister. So it leaves the NBN Co in a state of limbo. We know that there was always going to be tension s here because the new Communications Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, was highly critical of NBN Co's management throughout his time as the Opposition spokesman on this issue. We saw Mike Quigley, the chief executive who is also a board member announced back in July that he would be resigning, despite having recently signed a new contract for a couple of years, he's nonetheless the stepping away. Perhaps in part having seen the writing on the wall in a Coalition Government coming in. But we've also seen Malcolm Turnbull have some very public spats with Siobhan McKenna, the chairwoman of NBN Co and her handling of not just the project but her relations with Mike Quigley as well and the way that was managed. It seemed inevitable there would be some kind of change at NBN Co given those past tensions and given the fact that the Coalition Government is going to completely change the mission statement of NBN Co in stopping the fibre to the home and changing it to a fibre to the node type system. At the moment though we're not getting any official comments from either NBN Co or the Federal Government so what we know is that the resignations have been offered and we've got to wait to see if some or all of them are accepted.It may develop over the course of the day. Now also today we're expecting the new Immigration Minister Scott Morrison to unveil in some detail how the new Government is going to report boat arrivals? And what we're going to have instead of there being public notification s every time a boat arrival arrives, which is what we had under the Labor Government, what we're going to have is weekly briefings from both the Immigration Minister, Scott Morrison, and Lieutenant General Angus Campbell who is the 3-star General that the Coalition has appointed to oversee coordination of the Coalition's policies on border protection issues. Now, we don't currently know how many boats and asylum seekers have arrived since September 7 till now, because the Coalition had stopped the government agencies from giving any kind of notifications on this, the Department of Immigration hadn't given any indication and both they and the border protection keep referring back to the Minister's office who haven't been revealing anything yet. So it remains to be seen as to whether or continue to get a weekly
update, continue
as to whether or not we continue to get update, just how much
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update, information is contained in the past under Government. We past sometimes on a bit of past under the Labor
Government. We sometimes on a bit of a delay,
get sometimes on get all the information about number of arrivals, how many number of navy ships or border protection ships would be involved in rescue missions or escorting. We don't know how much information the Coalition Government is going to be willing to give and there's certainly plenty of pressure on them to keep up the openness and transparency of any measures balanced with the fact that the Immigration Minister Scott Morrison said they don't want too much information out because it might help